Mafia - Janitorial 2.0 - Game Abandoned

[Villain]

Even though Surendar was a really strong town player, it's still a bit relief as we still have the doc saved plus we can still get one more result and the cop saved for the following night. We aren't in a strong position right now but it's still fightable.
PS's investigation result will give us another breakthrough hopefully, let us wait for now.
User's play has been over defensive and aggressive at the same time.
Sulaiman's play has been fair, least suspicious of him right now.
Umair has been playing fine, but isn't really adding anything which would help town at this stage which makes me a bit suspicious of him.
Null read on Varun, I don't really have any idea about his play as I haven't had a game with him earlier. He seems to be playing safe by not adding much/giving us a chance to have a good read on him.

 

[Sulaiman7]

This is interesting. I have found Sulaiman weird from the very beginning. He has been shifting from one to the other. First me and now Varun. I agree I'd also like to know why Varun did not go for theDon. Maybe he was subtly trying to avoid Don's lynch? But, the way Don posted after the hammer, I feel he was the miller. If we are to believe his posts, that is.

Remember, we are 7 and there are still 2 mafias (if theDon was a mafia) there and it means only 2 of our votes will be enough for them to lynch us and win the game! Sulaiman, is that what you are after? I am actually suspicious about everyone apart from Psq and confused as well.

I was also thinking that don might be the miller and at one point I was convinced and I also said that no way I'm going to lynch but after what surendar said that I want all the townies in one direction , I had to lynch him , surendar actually did a very fine job , we had to move somewhere somehow and that was the only option there to lynch don and we all did that. That made me shift from not lynching don to lynch him.

 

[Varun]

Varun, you weren't really too keen to lynch thedon, which is slightly understandable but you said that if he dies and turns up mafia(which he was always going to) the suspicion is on you, I'd really like to know why?

Because people are inevitably going to follow the line of thought that everyone lynched him but I went the other way round and thus I'm supposed to be mafia by this reasoning.

I was always suspicious of Varun , everyone followed the cop leaving out him which definitely makes me think of him he was don's partner.

Here, you see. In my eyes, it is completely reasonable, what I did. With the Oracle dead and the cop revealed, there was no reason to take the risk on the first day. Now guess what? We got the mafia result and we don't even know if we nailed a mafia. I mean, we can make a good assumption he is, but we can never be sure unless P Squared gets a mafia result on a confirmed town (let's say a nightkilled player) thus proving him a miller.

He seems to be playing safe by not adding much/giving us a chance to have a good read on him.

What? I've posted and added more than everyone but thedon and User.

 

[Sulaiman7]

Here, you see. In my eyes, it is completely reasonable, what I did. With the Oracle dead and the cop revealed, there was no reason to take the risk on the first day. Now guess what? We got the mafia result and we don't even know if we nailed a mafia. I mean, we can make a good assumption he is, but we can never be sure unless P Squared gets a mafia result on a confirmed town (let's say a nightkilled player) thus proving him a miller.

You're right that we can never be sure don was a mafia or a miller but you know we had to do something , day didn't matter , don was going to be lynched and there was nothing of which Psq could be convinced by. Don tried is best to not get killed that day but Psq just wanted him dead and also , don died having a lynch on you , that means he was still (dying) suspicious of you, I told you sometimes I believed that he's the miller but after what everyone did except you , I had to lynch him as Surendar said he wanted all the townies in one direction, tell me why didn't you tell him that that there was no reason to take the risk on the first day?! Don could be well mafia you know. Everything now relies on the result Psq got , hope he got the real mafia this time and not a townie.

 

[P Squared]

Because people are inevitably going to follow the line of thought that everyone lynched him but I went the other way round and thus I'm supposed to be mafia by this reasoning.

Dont think anyone is that stupid, more so when thedon isnt even confirmed mafia.



I investigated you, you came up guilty. So really, either thedon was bullshitting, or you are, or you both were working together(which seems the likeliest case given the way you defended him).
Go on, claim miller (and this is getting funny now lol).

 

[Varun]

You're right that we can never be sure don was a mafia or a miller but you know we had to do something , day didn't matter , don was going to be lynched and there was nothing of which Psq could be convinced by. Don tried is best to not get killed that day but Psq just wanted him dead and also , don died having a lynch on you , that means he was still (dying) suspicious of you, I told you sometimes I believed that he's the miller but after what everyone did except you , I had to lynch him as Surendar said he wanted all the townies in one direction, tell me why didn't you tell him that that there was no reason to take the risk on the first day?! Don could be well mafia you know. Everything now relies on the result Psq got , hope he got the real mafia this time and not a townie.

Three things.

First, P Squared wanting him dead isn't even a valid reason for everyone to jump onto the bandwagon. I'm an independent player and P Squared's intuition doesn't affect mine. Moreover, due to the nature of the role, the cop is one of the most paranoid players in the game. The cops generally don't trust anyone.

Second, thedon never had a lynch on me. I mean, where the hell did that come from?

And third and most importantly, you said "hope he got the real mafia this time and not a townie". So how in the world do you know that thedon wasn't a real mafia? It seems like you have a knowledge that he is town? How come? I've been saying he could be both, before you put it on me.

FOS: Sulaiman

If it was the language, I wouldn't have been aggressive. But it is your train of thought. New players generally reveal a lot inadvertently. And before anyone say I have suddenly become aggressive, I clearly said I plan to be so on Day 2.

----------

Dont think anyone is that stupid, more so when thedon isnt even confirmed mafia.

Because Sulaiman just did?

I investigated you, you came up guilty. So really, either thedon was bullshitting, or you are, or you both were working together(which seems the likeliest case given the way you defended him).
Go on, claim miller (and this is getting funny now lol).

I'm not going to 'claim' miller, but it should be the case. I've already been softclaiming Villager from Day 1, in case you noticed.

----------

That also somewhat shows that thedon was indeed mafia, so my bad. But I still maintain my logic was reasonable.

 

[Sulaiman7]

Three things.

First, P Squared wanting him dead isn't even a valid reason for everyone to jump onto the bandwagon. I'm an independent player and P Squared's intuition doesn't affect mine. Moreover, due to the nature of the role, the cop is one of the most paranoid players in the game. The cops generally don't trust anyone.

Second, thedon never had a lynch on me. I mean, where the hell did that come from?

And third and most importantly, you said "hope he got the real mafia this time and not a townie". So how in the world do you know that thedon wasn't a real mafia? It seems like you have a knowledge that he is town? How come? I've been saying he could be both, before you put it on me.

FOS: Sulaiman

If it was the language, I wouldn't have been aggressive. But it is your train of thought. New players generally reveal a lot inadvertently. And before anyone say I have suddenly become aggressive, I clearly said I plan to be so on Day 2.

Look Varun , I actually got confused between you and user so I wrote that he had a lynch on you , I just wasn't PSq who I followed there , it was actually Surendar who just made me do that , I wasn't going to lynch don in any case , I just wanted to know what Simon does and now he's replaced. Me saying "hope he got the real mafia this time and not a townie" means that he gets a mafia not a miller (you know what I mean) , a pure mafia. Don could be the mafia or a miller but the one which Psq got the result of should be a pure mafia. This is what I mean by saying that.

 

[P Squared]

I'm not going to 'claim' miller, but it should be the case. I've already been softclaiming Villager from Day 1, in case you noticed.

Why though? Maybe because you realised you may come up guilty, so you cleared your name beforehand.

I mean why claim(however soft) townie when no one really thinks you are mafia(because at the time no one did, but I do now).

----------

Oh and
lynch :varun

 

[Sulaiman7]

lynch :varun

A straightforward lynch ? that's interesting....

I'd like to hear something from @Mr Nokkaya as well. PLEASE!

 

[Gaurav_7]

I think I am going to go with Psq. But, I do not want to give the mafias a chance to lynch him if he is innocent. I will give him a chance to defend himself. Nokkaya needs to post! Or I am lynching him!

 

[Sulaiman7]

I think I am going to go with Psq. But, I do not want to give the mafias a chance to lynch him if he is innocent. I will give him a chance to defend himself. Nokkaya needs to post! Or I am lynching him!

Yeah , better give Varun one last chance before we lynch him.

----------

And also , this isn't fair , everyone has added something except one person , Simon (now Nokkaya). It was better that he would have been replaced by someone active.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Nokkaya was active but did not post!

 

[Varun]

Why though? Maybe because you realised you may come up guilty, so you cleared your name beforehand.

Uh no. It's to mislead and confuse mafia. To make them think I'm the doc softclaiming as vanilla and they could target me instead.

So there hasn't been much discussion and people are already thinking last chances? Sulaiman is looking like a mafia to me. And the other one is probably one of Umair or Nokkaya/Simon. Seems a reasonable team with Abhas/thedon.

 

[P Squared]

Uh no. It's to mislead and confuse mafia. To make them think I'm the doc softclaiming as vanilla and they could target me instead.

Why would any sane person want to be targeted by the mafia? Surely the aim of this game is to survive?

That is just ridiculous and only increases my suspicion.

 

[Varun]

Why would any sane person want to be targeted by the mafia? Surely the aim of this game is to survive?

Because if the doc's out the town automatically loses anyway? It makes much more sense than you think...