Mafia01 - Classic Mafia - End Game - Mafia (Zhuorb and Swirler) win

[Gaurav_7]

I would favour going after swirler and User at present. I don't quite understand User's argument about attempting some kind of gambit and wishing everyone was online. Had everyone been online and if he town as he says he is, we would both have lost.

We would have lost only if you were hammered. I was obviously going to unlynch you as soon as someone else lynched you. But, that didn't happen.

I'm going to take a stab here and say that everyone was online apart from swirler which means he must be mafia. This assumes that User and I are both town.

This. This is another thing I worked out. But, the problem is I don't trust you atm and so do you. I know I'm town but, not who you are.

 

[barmyarmy]

We would have lost only if you were hammered. I was obviously going to unlynch you as soon as someone else lynched you. But, that didn't happen.

Doesn't work like that. I've been mafia where we synchronised our lynches to the minute to prevent unlynching. If you're town it's just bad play.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Doesn't work like that. I've been mafia where we synchronised our lynches to the minute to prevent unlynching. If you're town it's just bad play.

As I said, I was risking it. I'm not really clear on you. The 'Swirler being mafia' theory only works if you're town..

Bad play, maybe. But, it was a sort of move that has brought about the discussion.

 

[CremerCurrans]

I'm going to take a stab here and say that everyone was online apart from swirler which means he must be mafia. This assumes that User and I are both town.
If User is mafia then that changes things too.
Zhuorb is giving me pro-town vibes but he is experienced in this format so I wouldn't say he is completely cleared.
MaD was giving me mafia vibes before but now I'm less sure there too.
I would favour going after swirler and User at present. I don't quite understand User's argument about attempting some kind of gambit and wishing everyone was online. Had everyone been online and if he town as he says he is, we would both have lost.

So FOS: Swirler and User2010 and wanting to move towards a lynch once we've had some more discussion.

I don't understand what me being offline at time has to do with anything? Making assumptions that If I was online, I would of lynched you is just poor play. :/

 

[barmyarmy]

Not at all.
If User is town and I am town, then it follows that 2 of you, Zhuorb and MaD are mafia.
Clearly if two mafia had been online they would have hammered and won the game. It's an obvious assumption so I don't see how you can describe it as "poor play". You'll need to put up a better defence than that.

 

[Gaurav_7]

I don't understand what me being offline at time has to do with anything? Making assumptions that If I was online, I would of lynched you is just poor play. :/

No, it is correct if both me and Colin are town. I think Swirler's slipped a bit here?

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Colin posted the same thing, and explained it well.

 

[CremerCurrans]

That's a rather big If. With everything that's happened so far in day two, I can't see how I could be accused of being mafia.

 

[Gaurav_7]

You realize you're not being accused? It is just that if Colin is town, then you're mafia. As you said, a big IF. But, your reaction seems to be a bit concerning..

 

[CremerCurrans]

It's possible, just didn't want assumptions being treated as fact.

 

[barmyarmy]

Well it becomes a basic logic game like cop mafia. If User is town he was playing a rather high-risk gambit with my life (and the game) but I guess it worked if it potentially outed you as mafia.
That said I'm going to be cautious here because User might just be trying to get you lynched off having failed to get me lynched off first.

 

[ved_]

Also, the situation demands doctor to claim. It is ideal for the doctor to claim when the cop dies the first night. Since that move by User to 'bait the blitz', I am in somewhat favor of doctor to claim, for a clear. We will have to proceed to LYLO with no clears, but its better to have a 3 way LYLO than a 5 way LYLO.

 

[barmyarmy]

Unless someone counter-claims in which case we're just as stuck

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There's no disincentive for mafia to CC at LyLo as they won't "get lynched next".

 

[puddleduck]

My ghost just strolled past, looked at the doctor, shook my head, and then hoped you all burn for not being clever enough...

Good luck

 

[ved_]

Also, using the logic that User uses, we would have lost if everyone had been online. But, the only person not online was swirler. So that pretty much sums it up. Swirler has to be scum, or the mafia have played a very good tactic in not speedhammering and wanting to divert the lynch to swirler. I remember seeing barmyarmy, User2010, MaD and myself online at that time.
Large FOS: swirler
Will not lynch him as yet, need thoughts from others too.

 

[CremerCurrans]

Also, using the logic that User uses, we would have lost if everyone had been online. But, the only person not online was swirler. So that pretty much sums it up. Swirler has to be scum, or the mafia have played a very good tactic in not speedhammering and wanting to divert the lynch to swirler. I remember seeing barmyarmy, User2010, MaD and myself online at that time.
Large FOS: swirler
Will not lynch him as yet, need thoughts from others too.

It's possible. What you need to realise is, in the scenario given by barmyarmy & User2010, one or both of you and MaD are mafia.