Mafia01 - Classic Mafia - End Game - Mafia (Zhuorb and Swirler) win

[Gaurav_7]

There's a reason for me to lynch you, Colin. Yes, I will look like a complete idiot if you're not a mafia but, I feel you are.

If I was mafia I would have killed MaD or swirler.

This is where I think you're playing a smart game. Such posts and doing the exact opposite. Or, it could also be actual mafias are playing smart, if you aren't one that is. But, I think you are.

 

[MaD]

Is that reason.. more than what you've stated?

 

[Gaurav_7]

I know that was a dodgy post. But, if we keep on going round and round, this game's over. No cop, no results. We got to do something. Lynching someone when only 3 votes are needed is not the way I know, especially when there are 2 mafias out there but, it does help the other way too if the person whom you lynch is mafia. So, I may lose the game for town right here or might help to win if I am correct. Risk, I know but, right one as there's nothing to work on.

 

[barmyarmy]

Still no unlynch.
If for example MaD and Zhuorb are both mafia then you realise it's game over as they're online at the same time.
You're putting yourself out there based on very little evidence and potentially losing the game for the town.
I'm obviously in an impossible position if you say that I would do one thing and say another. That holds true about everyone in the game to some extent but I stand by what I said about me not killing sedition and puddleduck.

It would be very high risk for me to kill the one person who had broadly been supporting me and leave alive the ones who been gunning for me. There's trying to confuse people with your play and there's stupid play; that would be the latter.

I had a gameplan to stay alive as a townie here which was focused on not getting night-killed and it is working so far but hopefully you can work out without me spelling it out what that gameplan was.

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I know that was a dodgy post. But, if we keep on going round and round, this game's over. No cop, no results. We got to do something. Lynching someone when only 3 votes are needed is not the way I know, especially when there are 2 mafias out there but, it does help the other way too if the person whom you lynch is mafia. So, I may lose the game for town right here or might help to win if I am correct. Risk, I know but, right one as there's nothing to work on.

There's nothing to work on because everyone is yet to post. By placing a lynch you're ensuring that it doesn't matter what they post as the mafia can hammer me anyway.
Let's look at some scenarios here:

1. User2010 is town, I am mafia - results in stalemate in the short term as three votes required and you've only got one on me.
2. User2010 is town. I am town - mafia add two votes and hammer me. Town loses.
3. User2010 is mafia. I am town - mafia votes puts me two towards. One more person required for hammer.
4. User2010 is mafia, I am mafia - Two votes from town required. No real danger.

As you can see from that if I were mafia I wouldn't be in too much danger and wouldn't be demanding you remove your lynch so we can get some discussion going. If you want to lynch me later, after discussion, fine but at the moment you're not helping the town.

 

[ved_]

Just back, puddleduck killed is kind of like no surprise to me. He was giving alot of town tell phrases yesterday, some of them even showed soft claiming doctor. But he played well, and diverted the doctor from being killed.
User, you need to take that vote off right now. 2 votes more required to lynch barmyarmy, maybe we should first get some talk in and then start the lynching. Either that is very bad and stupid play or you are scum. Just what barmyarmy said.
Back at day 1, I feel that swirler and barmyarmy just might be town, not so sure on swirler because of their talk based around puddleduck. I wrongly FOS'd puddleduck. I
'm feeling a leaning scum read on User, just for that vote out of nowhere. Confused between MaD, barmyarmy, and swirler for second scum. But due to my previous read, MaD seems more likely although he hasn't done anything particularly scummy. User might be trying to pull off a brilliant piece of bussing barmyarmy, but that is very bad at LYLO. Swirler too, over here needs to be looked upon. He hasn't played a very smart game by jsut piggybacking whatever other people are saying and also posting needless 'filler' posts. Basically, I'm not very sure on the second scum, but I think User is scum for what he has just done over here.
Also guys, screw you. I've had to go back down because of you guys posting every 2 minutes. On another note, happy birthday hedger!

 

[MaD]

Can't tell if Barmy's really smart, making us think he's smart, making us think he isn't smart or serious...

 

[ved_]

MaD, stop using reverse psychology, it makes my head hurt.

 

[barmyarmy]

Can't tell if Barmy's really smart, making us think he's smart, making us think he isn't smart or serious...

I am really smart but sometimes I'm town not mafia and you need to remember that

 

[MaD]

faaark this is hard

User, what do you think?

 

[Gaurav_7]

Unlynch : barmyarmy

I've to go out now and so, for the time being. Will be back and then I'll post my thoughts.

I think I've got a fair idea..

 

[MaD]

I was going to lynch you if you didn't unlynch

 

[CremerCurrans]

Wow day two has been crazy. there is a lot of accusations flying around and not much supporting them.

I'm happy to put User2010's lynch down to a rush of blood, since he's removed it.

I am still suspicious of barmyarmy, but I don't see the connection between puddleducks death and him.

Zhuorb, you seem to constantly moaning about something despite the fact nothing bad has really happened to you

Almost like you feel you're under pressure because you're mafia, even though no one has really put you under that much pressure? Feeling something that no-one knows about?

I'm going to remove my lynch on Swirler. Unlynch: Swirler

I'm fairly keen for the no lynch as the wrong move is game over and even if I do pop it over night, as town I think Hedger said you win even if dead in this one?

FOS: Zhuorb

No Lynch

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That'll probably do me for a while. Just to say, really enjoying this guys. Much better than cricket 2010 haha

Looking at the second last post puddleduck made, I think Zhuorb is the most likely suspect.

 

[MaD]

I kinda get the feeling that User and his mafia buddy discussed during the night and decided that they would try n get rid of barmy, so atm, I wouldn't mind lynching him tbf. I'm off now, won't be on for about 18 hours so don't kill off until I get back so I can see whats going on unless people are sure...

 

[Gaurav_7]

Ok, what I've got from that 'lynch' of mine, mind you nothing much. I know I'm town so, there were other 3 people who posted, Colin, MaD and Zhuorb. Now, if both MaD and Zhuorb were mafia, they would have definitely lynched Colin and it would be game over. But, they aren't. This is one probability ruled out, there are so many still there though. This didn't work out the way I wanted it to, would have been perfect if all players were online.. Just an elimination game left now, if you get what I mean. So, this was a shot in the dark. Now, I'm confused.

I feel like I'm the lone one scratching my head off as I don't really trust any of you.

 

[barmyarmy]

I'm going to take a stab here and say that everyone was online apart from swirler which means he must be mafia. This assumes that User and I are both town.
If User is mafia then that changes things too.
Zhuorb is giving me pro-town vibes but he is experienced in this format so I wouldn't say he is completely cleared.
MaD was giving me mafia vibes before but now I'm less sure there too.
I would favour going after swirler and User at present. I don't quite understand User's argument about attempting some kind of gambit and wishing everyone was online. Had everyone been online and if he town as he says he is, we would both have lost.

So FOS: Swirler and User2010 and wanting to move towards a lynch once we've had some more discussion.