Mafia01 - Classic Mafia - End Game - Mafia (Zhuorb and Swirler) win

[MaD]

I don't know about barmy, you can never tell with him
At least swirler posting, I'm not sure about him either, fairly neutral
Unlynch: barmy
Lynch: Zhuorb

Is he playing it quiet or not coming online? Need more input, in a 7 player game, you'd expect everyone to be fairly active

 

[puddleduck]

I'd like Zhuorb and User to contribute. There's been a lot of words flying about, and their silence worries me (everything worries me haha).

 

[ved_]

Oh for god's sake, I have a life. I went to sleep 12 hours ago, woke up late on a Sunday, come back and watch me getting FOS'd - perfect. Looking at the current situation, swirler looks a little bit suspicious because of that unnecessary buddying with puddleduck. Also, notice how puddleduck instantly voted swirler after that bad piece of play so as to say "I'm not mafia with you, let me vote you to look innocent."
FOS: puddleduck,swirler
Lynch:User2010
I would like some more talk from User before I switch my vote to either or puddleduck or swirler.

 

[MaD]

Why so frustrated? Just a few FOS's, and those weren't because of activity.
I don't really see the buddying between pd and swirler either.
User's been fairly active

 

[CremerCurrans]

Oh for god's sake, I have a life. I went to sleep 12 hours ago, woke up late on a Sunday, come back and watch me getting FOS'd - perfect. Looking at the current situation, swirler looks a little bit suspicious because of that unnecessary buddying with puddleduck. Also, notice how puddleduck instantly voted swirler after that bad piece of play so as to say "I'm not mafia with you, let me vote you to look innocent."
FOS: puddleduck,swirler
Lynch:User2010
I would like some more talk from User before I switch my vote to either or puddleduck or swirler.

That doesn't make sense, your saying we are buddying up? and to hide that he voted to lynch me? I'm confused.

 

[puddleduck]

So you also thought Swirler looks guilty too Zhu? That makes a few of us now.

I actually wish I was mafia, I wouldn't be so bleedin' paranoid then haha

I clearly voted Swirler because I've spent the last day attempting to get someone to bite on my fairly wild accusations, and Swirler did first. The fact mafia can't talk during the day led me to believe that if I kept going crazy one of them might attempt to push one of my lynches to get that MYLO thingy you mentioned

My doubts about your most recent post Zhu are that you were one of the initial suspects, and despite me actually researching and backing your claim about MYLO (why would I need to if I was mafa ) you're still basically moaning about having the finger of suspicion pointed at you (quite justifiable really I feel considering a lot of people have said a lot since you last had any input). I actually don't even think I need to defend myself because I think you're the only person in the entire game who even remotely thinks I'm mafia haha

You came in with a very quick no lynch with no attempt to generate any debate first up, and now you're sticking a pressure lynch down on User as well as pointing fingers everywhere? I feel your protestation that it was textbook move maybe suggests that you were trying, as mafia, to do the most textbook townie thing you could do to look like town. Not fact, but certainly has that vibe to it.

Personally, and this is a bit of a wild shot here, I feel like you've just done what you accused me of. If Swirler is mafia and you are too, you've basically tried to hide your guilt by fingering both of us allowing you to switch to someone else when the opportunity arises.

Keeping my old lynch down,

but I'm also definitely very suspicious of Zhuorb.

 

[MaD]

He's also done what he's accused everyone of by lynching User (more than an FOS) because of activity.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Just came here and I've a fair bit to read. So, don't just jump to conclusions seeing I'm viewing the thread but, not posting.

 

[Gaurav_7]

Alright, I've read from where I left yesterday. PD lynches Colin, Colin asks him to remove his lynch and says only then he will defend himself. I don't remember anything what Colin posted to look suspicious though. Those posts about not killing Sedition on first night, I feel were alright. I've seen Colin do this in other games as well where he was perfectly town. PD is just going here and there, which makes me believe he is town or for me inclining town. I'd leave these two at the moment. Could very well be both of them are mafia and are playing with all of us. I doubt that.

Now, onto Swirler. I feel he might be absolutely correct or absolutely wrong when he says Colin is trying to look townie being a mafia. But, I can't really decide or work out whom to believe and whom not to.

Not really sure about MaD either. I'm putting him down as town for the moment.

Now, the last one, Zhuorb. First he was all for no lynch. Then, he says PD and Swirler are teaming up but, lynches me. Very weird and suspicious. What input would you like from me? Can you please elaborate? Also, how about telling me what benefit it will have if we go for a no lynch today? (considering you were all for it earlier)

So, at this moment, I'm not really sure on one particular person. I'd like Zhuorb to post something sensible though.

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Alright, I've read from where I left yesterday. PD lynches Colin, Colin asks him to remove his lynch and says only then he will defend himself. I don't remember anything what Colin posted to look suspicious though. Those posts about not killing Sedition on first night, I feel were alright. I've seen Colin do this in other games as well where he was perfectly town. PD is just going here and there, which makes me believe he is town or for me inclining town. I'd leave these two at the moment. Could very well be both of them are mafia and are playing with all of us. I doubt that.

Now, onto Swirler. I feel he might be absolutely correct or absolutely wrong when he says Colin is trying to look townie being a mafia. But, I can't really decide or work out whom to believe and whom not to.

Not really sure about MaD either. I'm putting him down as town for the moment.

Now, the last one, Zhuorb. First he was all for no lynch. Then, he says PD and Swirler are teaming up but, lynches me. Very weird and suspicious. What input would you like from me? Can you please elaborate? Also, how about telling me what benefit it will have if we go for a no lynch today? (considering you were all for it earlier)

So, at this moment, I'm not really sure on one particular person. I'd like Zhuorb to post something sensible though.

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Oh, that's posted twice, haha.

 

[puddleduck]

There's an echo in here

 

[hedger_14]

Vote Count

barmyarmy (1) - puddleduck
Zhuorb (1) - MaD
User2010 (1) - Zhuorb

puddle, you didn't Unlynch first, so your vote on barmy still counts.

Discussion is going well so I'm not going to pose a limit on the time yet. Probably another 48 hours or so.

 

[CremerCurrans]

You said there's a rough 24 hour warning is there not *whistles*

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What the deuce? Where'd the rest of my post go?

That was an Unlynch: Barmyarmy

But a very long and nasty FOS: Barmyarmy because I want to hear you defend yourself.

Swirler, there was no need for that. Boom, hook line and sinker.

Lynch: Swirler

He did unlynch Barmyarmy, I shouldn't be pointing it out though.

I'm a bit disapointed with Zhuorb, he came on and made one post, then went offline again.

 

[puddleduck]

Cheers Swirls

Lynch: Hedger For not paying attention

 

[ved_]

Unlynch:User2010
I posted my reasons for the No Lynch, but since you guys are not up for it we can lynch it. Let me show you again.

Now, the last one, Zhuorb. First he was all for no lynch. Then, he says PD and Swirler are teaming up but, lynches me. Very weird and suspicious. What input would you like from me? Can you please elaborate? Also, how about telling me what benefit it will have if we go for a no lynch today? (considering you were all for it earlier)

No lynch is optimal play over here because of the Mislynch and Lose. We have a slightly better chance to nail the mafia down next day.6 people, 1 doc and 5 unclears. Tomorrow, at worst we will have 5 un-clears which is extremely rare. 1 doc and 4 un-clears is better which hands us a 50% chance of hitting mafia as opposed to 40% chance of doing it today. So if we hit the 60% chance of town, worst case scenario is doc dead or an unclear vanilla dead, which leaves us praying for the doc save.

 

[barmyarmy]

Now is the time to go no lynch and here is why. Before there had been no discussion and we didn't have any reads. Now we have a fair idea of who seems scummy and we can lynch them off tomorrow.
As it stands:
if we lynch today - chance of success 1/3 (two mafia and 4 town)
if we lynch tomorrow - chance of success 2/5 (assuming successful mafia kill)

We have some good info which will mean even more on day 2 once we know who was killed overnight and we can see who lynched them etc.

Therefore no lynch.

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@Zhuorb - our posts crossed. My issue was never with you saying no lynch. It was when you said it. No discussion only benefits the mafia.