Mafia01 - Classic Mafia - End Game - Mafia (Zhuorb and Swirler) win

[puddleduck]

No one got anything to add... You must all have far more interesting things to be doing than writing 8,000 words haha

 

[barmyarmy]

Lynch: Barmyarmy He's quite literally the only person who's posted anything remotely suspicious

Can you point me towards it? Bear in mind that that lynch puts me two towards (with 4 needed) and if neither you or MaD are mafia I can be hammered by the two mafias in the game and we've all lost.
I'll respond and defend myself if you unlynch and FOS but at the moment you're giving the mafias (assuming you're not one) an open goal to win.

 

[puddleduck]

You said there's a rough 24 hour warning is there not *whistles*

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What the deuce? Where'd the rest of my post go?

That was an Unlynch: Barmyarmy

But a very long and nasty FOS: Barmyarmy because I want to hear you defend yourself.

 

[barmyarmy]

Ok, I'm fine with defending myself but I'm not fine being two votes towards when I don't know who the two mafias are.
A 24 hours warning is only if there is nothing happening. 4 votes for anyone (or no lynch) ends the day.
You need to tell me what you thought was suspicious about my post for me to defend myself. All I have done so far is FOSed Zhuorb for coming straight in with a no lynch straight after the cop had been killed without any attempt at analysing play, drawing someone out or FOSing someone.
I was also suspicious of swirler for highlighting meanings in my post that aren't there and MaD for going straight to a lynch without any real reasoning.

 

[puddleduck]

Oh, my pointing towards it is that I think you're a wiley player. I feel you've tried to play to the fact I'm new and have looked to manipulate me a little bit. Just subtly, but subtly enough that you know I'm town because you know you're mafia. There is one other option as I've previously mentioned, but I don't think you'd be sloppy enough to say that and as I too have hinted, I'm not sure you are what you seemed to me to be claiming (that is essential to "my winning") You also were very quick to suggest you wouldn't target Sedition, which if any other mafia game has taught me anything in reading through, is most definitely not your style. I've seen various rehashings of "You need Barmy for such and such."

I would like to see someone say for certain they think you've lied though, otherwise it actually supports you quite well, and as I've said before, I actually think letting you live tonight is not a bad idea, as it could well confirm many of my suspicions about you by tomorrow.

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An addition. I actually thought MaD had removed his lynch and I was the only one in play! So I fully accept you asking me to remove it for a FOS

 

[CremerCurrans]

Can you point me towards it? Bear in mind that that lynch puts me two towards (with 4 needed) and if neither you or MaD are mafia I can be hammered by the two mafias in the game and we've all lost.
I'll respond and defend myself if you unlynch and FOS but at the moment you're giving the mafias (assuming you're not one) an open goal to win.

It's a pressure lynch, he shouldn't have to remove it to get information out of you. There is a risk, that they can turn into bandwagon lynching, but I do think it's a risk that needs to be taken, because most people aren't phased by an FOS.

 

[barmyarmy]

He should for the reasons outlined above. If you disagree then you either need a maths lesson or you're mafia...

 

[puddleduck]

Swirler, there was no need for that. Boom, hook line and sinker.

Lynch: Swirler

 

[barmyarmy]

Oh, my pointing towards it is that I think you're a wiley player. I feel you've tried to play to the fact I'm new and have looked to manipulate me a little bit. Just subtly, but subtly enough that you know I'm town because you know you're mafia. There is one other option as I've previously mentioned, but I don't think you'd be sloppy enough to say that and as I too have hinted, I'm not sure you are what you seemed to me to be claiming (that is essential to "my winning") You also were very quick to suggest you wouldn't target Sedition, which if any other mafia game has taught me anything in reading through, is most definitely not your style. I've seen various rehashings of "You need Barmy for such and such."

I would like to see someone say for certain they think you've lied though, otherwise it actually supports you quite well, and as I've said before, I actually think letting you live tonight is not a bad idea, as it could well confirm many of my suspicions about you by tomorrow.

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An addition. I actually thought MaD had removed his lynch and I was the only one in play! So I fully accept you asking me to remove it for a FOS

When I first played mafia I wouldn't have mentioned the sedition thing because the convention is that most people play safe so putting your head above the parapet on day 1 makes you a target. However I decided to because however Machiavellian people may think me in this game I wouldn't kill someone on night 0 who hasn't played before. We can go round in circles with "I'm just trying to make you think that" but firstly I want to encourage new players to play this game and secondly if I was mafia I would much rather face newbies than experienced players so I'd have been killing off User2010 or MaD.

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Swirler, there was no need for that. Boom, hook line and sinker.

Lynch: Swirler

Yeah I thought that might trip him up. Best way to catch mafia is to make a trap and see if they fall into it.
Obviously I'm not going to lynch him atm as that would put him two away!

 

[puddleduck]

Barmy, I had already come to that conclusion. I don't think you're a monster, and you have always tried to encourage people to play the game... So yeah, I had already run with that theory and kept it quiet to myself

Still, more fool me when you turn out to be the GF and I'm lying face down in a pool of my own blood

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I was actually already suspicious of him and I've been desperately trying to get someone to bite. Swirler, you're going to hang for what you did to Sedition

 

[CremerCurrans]

He should for the reasons outlined above. If you disagree then you either need a maths lesson or you're mafia...

I just felt that you were wriggling out of a lynch, when all you needed to do was answer the question.

Swirler, there was no need for that. Boom, hook line and sinker.

Lynch: Swirler

I did it because I've been suspicious of him, so far in the match. And I feel that he's trying to get everyone on his side, instead of just working as a team to get information together.

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I was actually already suspicious of him and I've been desperately trying to get someone to bite. Swirler, you're going to hang for what you did to Sedition

That's definitely unfair, your just jumping to conclusions.

 

[MaD]

Wow I'm really confused now...
The mafia seem to have done well to look innocent
FOS: Swirler
Need more input from Zhuorb, what are your thoughts so far?

 

[puddleduck]

It's all very well saying we need to be a team, but there's two people in this "team" that are working against us. You attempted to pin down Barmy earlier, and I was hoping someone would try and either follow up my lynch or convince me to reapply it so that the mafia (who will probably have a set target to work on from their initial discussion) can attempt to steer it that way without the ability to communicate during the day. I think quite rightly that the mafia would be very keen to remove Barmy if he wasn't on their side as they might well view him as a genuine threat.

Perhaps your QT may even have aimed at working on Barmy through the day? You've definitely jumped the gun regarding accusing him twice in my opinion. Why so suspicious of him if it's not because you know he's town and you're mafia?

Why pick out the bit about hanging That's more of a joke on my part, but apparently that's the unfair bit?

Staying with lynch: Swirler. I've pretty much been leaning this way from fairly early into the thread, I don't think Barmy is guilty despite some slightly bizarre posting (which I'm actually prepared to put down to the fact he's much more comfortable being mafia than town haha). Still, there's some other people to get involved, so I'm gonna sit back and see what's said for a while

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Speak of the devil. Hi MaD

What are your thoughts on Barmy then MaD since I believe you still have a lynch on him. Also how do you feel regarding Swirler? (turned on because he's a sexy mofo doesn't count as an answer )

 

[CremerCurrans]

It's all very well saying we need to be a team, but there's two people in this "team" that are working against us. You attempted to pin down Barmy earlier, and I was hoping someone would try and either follow up my lynch or convince me to reapply it so that the mafia (who will probably have a set target to work on from their initial discussion) can attempt to steer it that way without the ability to communicate during the day. I think quite rightly that the mafia would be very keen to remove Barmy if he wasn't on their side as they might well view him as a genuine threat.

Perhaps your QT may even have aimed at working on Barmy through the day? You've definitely jumped the gun regarding accusing him twice in my opinion. Why so suspicious of him if it's not because you know he's town and you're mafia?

Why pick out the bit about hanging That's more of a joke on my part, but apparently that's the unfair bit?

Staying with lynch: Swirler. I've pretty much been leaning this way from fairly early into the thread, I don't think Barmy is guilty despite some slightly bizarre posting (which I'm actually prepared to put down to the fact he's much more comfortable being mafia than town haha). Still, there's some other people to get involved, so I'm gonna sit back and see what's said for a while

barmyarmy has continued to be suspicious, the others haven't given much at all, and in the mean time he continues to stand out. It just doesn't make sense that he's trying to get everyone on his side. Maybe your right, he might have forgotten how to play town, he has been mafia a lot lately.

 

[barmyarmy]

he's trying to get everyone on his side, instead of just working as a team to get information together.

Surely getting people onto my side makes a team?
Anyway big FOS on Swirler, Zhuorb and MaD but I'd be prepared to go no lynch at this point as I'm not certain enough on anyone.