New Zealand in England May - June 2013

Save this match from LOSING? Are you serious? After a team just got 204 all out, 400 is not safe?

They'll want a 400 lead at least, but a few wickets, or even 5 wickets and England's notions towards a win will be long gone.

What? :facepalm
 
Save this match from LOSING? Are you serious? After a team just got 204 all out, 400 is not safe?

They'll want a 400 lead at least, but a few wickets, or even 5 wickets and England's notions towards a win will be long gone.

It was the right decision not to enforce the follow on, they shouldn't have had enough runs to win although England seem capable of looking completely incompetent so who knows, but batting last should be far harder than batting third.

Losing three kwikfit batsmen quickly should not worry the kiwis too much, I have to laugh at the "wisdom" so many display in hindsight and indeed of talk of needing 400 not to lose. If the kiwis struggle to 100-150 then England are unlikely to cruise to 300-350.....................

The kiwis applied a correct approach to the situation and have every chance of winning from here. I can't believe England didn't put up a lot more resistance, the worst decision of the match has to be putting the kiwis in.
 
Well practically 255/3 and NZ atleast need another 150 runs to save this match from losing thats 161 runs in second innings now. They can do that cant they?

lol wut?

NZ are ahead by 274, a loss is almost out of the question now.
 
Oh and Cook's minnow bashing purple patch has come to an end. Been pissing myself laughing whenever I see him mentioned in the same sentence as Clarke in either batting or captaincy :lol

Luckily we've got two minnow series coming up in a row after NZ.
I'd ask for advice on how to beat them at home but Australia would be the wrong country to ask.
 
What kind of score max are you guys(the barmy army) looking at here? For chasing ofc...
 
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I think if we got left 400, with 4 and a half sessions to go, we'd think that it was maybe a possibility. We'd need the top 3 to score plenty though.

Any more than that, or any less time and I think we'd be shutting up shop and just looking for a draw.
 
Yeah I strangely think this England team could pull out something crazy like that, but it's a slim chance and a NZ win still the most likely.
 
I think NZ probably have enough already. The danger from their POV is that they bat too long and we can bat out the draw without difficulty.
Absolutely no way we're going to win this game.
 
I think in Cook and Trott we have two guys who are capable of scoring big no matter the opposition or the conditions really. With those two there, we always have the potential to score big. The problem is, with no KP and that middle order, we're always going to need those two to go big in that sort of a situation, rather than being able to rely on, what looks like an increasingly shaky 4, 5 and 6.
 
It's over. We needed wickets to be falling on a regular basis.

Best thing about any NZ tour is always getting to listen to Jeremy Coney.
 

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