Skater
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Root opens the batting for Yorkshire. That's what he's used to. I think it would be harsh on Compton to drop him now though.
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Root opens the batting for Yorkshire. That's what he's used to. I think it would be harsh on Compton to drop him now though.
vaibhavtewatia
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But his ability against the new ball hasn't been tested much at the International level, or has it?
Just saying, he's been performing well in the middle!!
Skater
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Yes, he's been excellent in the middle order, which is why I said I would not change anything at the moment and in fact I'd have Compton open for the Ashes. What I'm saying is that Root is the long term opener for England.
Lee1981
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Sorry did I mention the rusty roofed one was at any point.
Compton in my opinion is not good enough, that is my opinion, do I have an answer to a ready made replacement, well no I don't, Root looks to be the future. Short term can't believe he is the best option we have
I'm sure there is just a conveyor belt with players like Compton in the county scene who score plenty of runs there, then go play test cricket and look completely out there depth, if he was in his early 20's then yeah stick with, but we will gain nothing sticking with him,
ste_mc_efc
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Sorry did I mention the rusty roofed one was at any point.
Compton in my opinion is not good enough, that is my opinion, do I have an answer to a ready made replacement, well no I don't, Root looks to be the future. Short term can't believe he is the best option we have
I'm sure there is just a conveyor belt with players like Compton in the county scene who score plenty of runs there, then go play test cricket and look completely out there depth, if he was in his early 20's then yeah stick with, but we will gain nothing sticking with him,
You probably should.
what's the context of Compton not being good enough? that he is quite limited and won't average 40? you're probably right.
but if there isn't a better option then he is good enough, because he is the best player available.
As ste has pointed out, it's all well and good saying that someone isn't good enough, but if you can't name someone who deserves a chance ahead of him, then you're just proving yourself wrong.
As for there being plenty of batsmen like him in County Cricket, check his average from last season, especially in comparison to most of the other players, and tell me that there are plenty more people that should be in ahead of him.
That's without even mentioning back to back Test centuries and a decent contribution on his first series in India.
As for there being plenty of batsmen like him in County Cricket, check his average from last season, especially in comparison to most of the other players, and tell me that there are plenty more people that should be in ahead of him.
That's without even mentioning back to back Test centuries and a decent contribution on his first series in India.
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Vettori warmed up for the ODers with 150 retired and four wickets against some randoms.
Vettori warmed up for the ODers with 150 retired and four wickets against some randoms.
I'd worry about Root's form being affected by shifting him up the order, even though he has opened for Yorkshire. I'd be even more concerned by a batsman struggling to make it much past double figures opening though, that against the kiwis.
Anyway, pointless debating it too much (more) since the selectors will make their minds up before the Ashes. Weigh up two hundreds against New Zealand against an average of 9.75 in the most recent series, for me he'd have to make a lot of runs inbetween now and then.
As for the Test, I see Trott is defending England's tactics. I go along with not enforcing the follow on, I doubt the kiwis would have crumbled again although if the weather does take chunks out of play then they'll look wrong even though England don't need to win this Test so have made the series completely safe.
I do question why they didn't declare a bit sooner though. I said about 430 lead or midway through the session, whichever came earlier. Well weren't England 429 ahead at lunch? I thought the extra 30 runs or whatever were unnecessary, even now 3.5 wickets have fallen per session and someone on the highlights pinched my stat about how many runs the kiwis had scored in the series before this innings.
Probably be a limp finale to the series, England either win the match or not I'm not sure there's any excitement in a short series having played the same opponents the series before in a short series.
vaibhavtewatia
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Not sure why this follow on thingy is coming up. The Kiwi's avoided the follow on.
Brits had 180 as lead when they came out to bat!!
Brits had 180 as lead when they came out to bat!!
vaibhavtewatia
Panel of Selectors
Well, by default? Never knew, thanks.
I don't see the issue really. I mean yeah, they went for the ultra-safe route, but being 1-0 up and drawing in the Winter meant that they were always going to guarantee the series win, even if that meant a draw in this match.
All this talk though of people saying 'Set them 400, it's only been achieved so many times' make me wonder, is that what the great Australian side were saying in that match against the West Indies, when they set that many and got chased down?
All this talk though of people saying 'Set them 400, it's only been achieved so many times' make me wonder, is that what the great Australian side were saying in that match against the West Indies, when they set that many and got chased down?
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