End Game Star Wars Mafia - End Mafia(Surendar) & Third Party (Fake Passport) Won

[Fake Passport]

Spoiler: More against Rudi

Go for it... I'm really not in a mood for posting senseless defensive posts all day long .... Town can afford to loose one member.

Lynch me then if it's scummy

Lynch me then

the above tactic tends to come into play when one is scum

Go for it, please lynch me

Simon might be able to replace you. I can't help think you have brought this on yourself.

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And just like that you are back on my Mafia, ignore list!!! Well done son ​

Put in a spoiler because you are all probably sick of me going after him - but its even more of a lock for me.

The 'lynch me' argument is about as scummy as you get. Its a play to effectively say 'I give up/dont care'. However when you consider hes shown emotion of caring with what EL said shows that he does care. the fact he has 'moved on' from this debate shows that he does care.

Plus - He hasn't been replaced by Simon and I dont *think* he responded to the quote from CC. Why not? Because its a game and not personal. It lends credibility to those lynch me posts being a ploy. Appeal to emotion like that, try to move the conversation on and hop people forget....

Plus asking JR to investigate something that was wrong for so many reasons. Including the fact that Mafia have had a night to chat, what was said was out in the open anyway etc.

Im calling the game setup as I see it. Gun to head type of read I reckon its
Mafia:
Varun
CaptainCremer
President Evil (I think theres truth to his availability, but hes gone way to long, his availability has caused him to come up with the play - also consider he hasn't been replaced..)
3rd Party Mafia:
Rudolph

3rd Party Town:
Fake Passport

Town:
Asprin
Villain
Surendar
Swacker
MrsPacman
El Loco
Zwarrior

EBWOP

 

[El Loco]

I don't think CaptainCremer, Varun and Surendar cannot all be Vanilla at the same time, but I do not really have knowledge when it comes to how a balance can be struck in themed set-ups.
Don't really understand why Surendar felt compelled to claim either.

 

[RUDI]

I am a financial officer of the base + I have an issue to resolve , what that might be only Jack Ryder knows. Perhaps someone is embezzling funds or something ...
My apology to Fake and El loco for being an arse. I'm trying different strategies, being the rude guy is another failed attempt on my behalf ....

 

[El Loco]

I am a financial officer of the base + I have an issue to resolve , what that might be only Jack Ryder knows. Perhaps someone is embezzling funds or something ...
My apology to Fake and El loco for being an arse. I'm trying different strategies, being the rude guy is another failed attempt on my behalf ....

How do you explain the following?

Then why is his winning conditions different to mine? I am a straight forward vanilla townie, my vote is my weapon.
Do I sense an alliance between the two of you? You are covering and answering for him....
FOS: CaptainCremer

 

[El Loco]

I don't think CaptainCremer, Varun and Surendar can all be Vanilla at the same time, but I do not really have knowledge when it comes to how a balance can be struck in themed set-ups.
Don't really understand why Surendar felt compelled to claim either.

^Correction.
Don't think so many people can claim a role for which there is finite quantity. Especially given the fact that it looks like Rudolph did the same in the post I quoted too.

 

[RUDI]

You are the Finance Officer of the base.
You are Vanilla Townie.
Your vote is your weapon.
You win when the mafia/Sith is eliminated.
You have your own issue to worry about too

How do you explain the following?

That's pretty straight forward vanilla to me. Nothing special there, perhaps my lack of interest initially is because I can not do anything special..

 

[Fake Passport]

I am a financial officer of the base + I have an issue to resolve , what that might be only Jack Ryder knows. Perhaps someone is embezzling funds or something ...
My apology to Fake and El loco for being an arse. I'm trying different strategies, being the rude guy is another failed attempt on my behalf ....

Huh? So your saying you have a win condition but only JR knows what it is?
No apology needed - its a game, Im still not convinced. For every townie thing you do you seem to back it up just enough scum quality to make it worthy to get rid of you just to move on type thing.

 

[swacker]

I would have agreed with all the above if I was the only one to do so. Any reason why you're specifically targeting me when there are more who have exhibited the same behavior?

I think he made the reasons pretty clear for targeting you and Rudolph now.

It's not the first time I saw you are questioning things which are obvious.

Also, in my reply to Varun, I asked how to believe that nameless character as solid proof for town? It can help fake claims as well - logically, correct?

yea, but do you think that was worth a lynch based on fake claim. You made a judgement, does that mean it is been proved?

In that reply, I neither spoke about my role nor about mafia having nameless characters for sure. I was giving my view back that nameless character can't be convincing enough, anyone can play that card.

Based on that, people advising others not to claim is more on the scum side than ever, though not by much. It seems as if those people jump onto them, advising them not to claim, when they actually do want a claim, but say not to claim to blend in with the crowd.

 

[Fake Passport]

That's pretty straight forward vanilla to me. Nothing special there, perhaps my lack of interest initially is because I can not do anything special..

There are elements of town in that. But your statement about interest initially. What changed? Why did you care when I started going after you? Why then not care and ask to be lynched and now your back to caring?

Your emotions flip flop more than my pregnant wife! (Sorry sweetie) but I still say its deliberate.

OOOHHHHH
THOUGHT: Didn't JR say he had to tweak the roles and stuff? With the movement of players? It could be possible that people have seen the PM from multiple roles (even if same alignment).

Yea, Im staying with my vote for now anyway.

 

[asprin]

I think he made the reasons pretty clear for targeting you and Rudolph now.

Which is? If someone is accusing someone, an ambiguous statement such as "I think he made the reasons pretty clear" shouldn't hold a candle. Be specific please.

It's not the first time I saw you are questioning things which are obvious.

Perhaps then I'm not as as smart as you then. I think I've said that before too.

 

[El Loco]

That's pretty straight forward vanilla to me. Nothing special there, perhaps my lack of interest initially is because I can not do anything special..

I feel strongly about the fact that you shouldn't be allowed to do what you just did to get yourself out of hot water since you're the one who landed yourself in it.

But since you acted in a similar way in a previous game where you were town, I held off engaging with you as I knew I'd get the same facetious replies that you responded with.
Although you're approach hasn't counted for nil as it brought Surendar to the fore (in my opinion anyway), I'm sure you'll agree it's not the best way to go about things.
Something for you to reflect on.

 

[Fake Passport]

Okay we are going to say good-bye to @User2010 . I have made some changes here and there, If you are part of it you will know it.
so let's start.

There we go. I'm pretty comfortable that Rudis role changed, hes seen the PM for different alignments. It also follows that he was made a mafia aligned 3rd party. A Finance Officer funding the mafia kinda also makes sense.


You almost got away with it, its only cause I went through the whole post tonight I saw that. It would have been an absolute genius/masterstroke of play had it worked.

 

[El Loco]

Which is? If someone is accusing someone, an ambiguous statement such as "I think he made the reasons pretty clear" shouldn't hold a candle. Be specific please.

Go do some digging yourself mate, are you not part of the game?

 

[swacker]

Which is? If someone is accusing someone, an ambiguous statement such as "I think he made the reasons pretty clear" shouldn't hold a candle. Be specific please.

You are asking the reasons again when he had told it before. You need to back your thought and answers which won't be anti-town.

Perhaps then I'm not as as smart as you then. I think I've said that before too.

yea, turned out that you were mafia. Is this how you normally play or you do when you are mafia?

 

[Targaryen]

PresidentEvil can also be a mafia. But we can't really know until he starts posting. @Jack Ryder try replacing him? Maybe with @Simon?

I've already asked for the replacement. Not really interested as I couldn't dedicate much time for this game and other games in the future. It is better to ask for replacement rather than remaining inactive/silent.

Good luck everyone