End Game Star Wars Mafia - End Mafia(Surendar) & Third Party (Fake Passport) Won

[Fake Passport]

But as I said before, it will be difficult to trust him as he will try to lynch a person whom jack has said to him.

The entirity of my role changed. I don't need to target as a win condition, aside from 'all scum dead' although that fact should become evident with reads and stuff.[DOUBLEPOST=1500384992][/DOUBLEPOST]But on the whole I'm going to move on from this now as it's detracting from scum reading. If you want me to address something re this tag me and ask a specific question, but personally think it's time to move on.

 

[Villain]

Sorry again for the low activity, was busy installing Windows, updating drivers etc for my new PC. I promise to be active enough from now on. Thanks.

 

[Till Valhalla]

@asprin is dead. He was Jedi Apprentice.

If anybody is confused, he was town.

 

[swacker]

updating drivers etc for my new PC

Which one you got? :S Gaming?

cc lynched asprin. Agreed asprin hasn't posted much ( even me), is that a pressure vote or what ? As far as I see, I dont see any issue with how asprin responded. Same with swacker.

Do you think asprin was helping town in any way?

 

[Villain]

Here and yes a bit of gaming and regular use. Not that powerful machine though, low-mid range.

Just built a PC after a really long time, here are the specs for those who are interested:
ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti Mini (4GB DDR5)
Intel® Core™ i3-6098P Processor
GA-H110M-S2 (rev. 1.0) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE
8GB RAM DDR4
1TB HDD

And:
Dell KM117 Wireless Keyboard Mouse
Circle D2 Cabinet
WiFi Dongle

Had to go with the i3 6098P(that's pretty much an i3 6100 with a less powerful integrated GPU) since Pentium G4560 was out of stock everywhere and was being sold for double it's price hence the i3 was a better option.

Went with a very basic cabinet for the moment, will be upgrading to a much better one next month as I can't afford to spend anymore on the PC this month.

Total cost is around 37K INR all thanks to the new GST in India and miners. If I'd have built the same thing 2 weeks ago it'd have cost me much less around 33K INR.

Pretty good so far..

Sorry for going off-topic.

Asprin quite clearly never sounded town, not sure what was he hiding really.

I went through everything, will be posting my detailed analysis covering each and everything tomorrow morning.

 

[Fake Passport]

The obvious thing to do is try to work out why Asprin was lynched.
Really the only thing is THIS post where he implicates CaptainCremer, Villain and myself. He also had a vote on Varun.

Whatever you think of me now, for that kill I have to be cleared based on JR confirmation that I was after Rudi.
My gut says if there's a scum in the two explicitly mentioned its probably CC. This is from memory but alot of us had suspicions on CC throughout day 2, I noticed also that he was pretty eager to jump on and lynch Rudi which in retrospect kinda reads as TMI on his part. Even today he seems to be very 'pro FP' which considering everything that has happened, a little skepticism wouldn't be inappropriate.

Villain hasn't come across my radar as scummy, but also haven't payed attention. The only off thing that springs to mind is he complained about lack of activity then dissapeared to go on a road trip and build a PC, although he acknowledged this but he still feels townie to me.

His first condition had him getting Rudolph lynched for reasons I can't tell but him being Mod Killed his win con was snatched away hence I had to give him something different.

There is something to this. Rudolph was something to someone else. My old role was that of a debt collector working for Jabba the Hut. In the role PM the story goes that I was to collect the debt but when it all happened I basically was meant to make an example of him and have him killed. I want to look at anyone who was dead set against the Rudi lynch, but thats a job for tomorrow.[DOUBLEPOST=1500398713][/DOUBLEPOST]^^ to elaborate, Rudi having a debt to Jabba sets him up as a person of questionable character, it wouldn't surprise me if somehow that meant the mafia had something to do with him...

 

[surendar]

the others thought they could jump on him but they undermined him and ensued a battle which went for a long time but in the end he was defeated

Anyways, whoever went after me, I hope I didn't make it easy for you.

These 2 matches, i.e. so Asprin was our town PR, Apsrin's reply and JR's description of night matches. Looks like, Asprin has played well & got defeated after a long battle. May be that is why, he was not contributing much as town PRs usually want to play safe most of the times.

I am going to look back on Asprin's post to see whether there is any clue based on his interactions. Going to park a bit aside on Varun's continuous attempt to link Captain Cremer in his posts & El Loco's desperation to lynch me.

But at the moment I have doubt on Mrs pacman. She was the first person to slip out the fact that there were multiple teams in battle mode at nights and then when I questioned how she came to know, she replied as typo.

FOS: MrsPacman

Night 1 starts. People with night role do your jobs.
jobs instead of job? Does not detract from the argument for 3 'teams' or multiple Empire night roles.

This is interesting, you seem to know for sure something additional. Where did the number 3 come from? Jobs can be 2 teams as well, why 3?

My error. I was working under the assumption that the good team works in the day and the evil guys the night. The earlier talk of a good team member that can 'block' a evil action validly means jobs could be 2 or 3, you are absolutely right.

 

[El Loco]

Asprin came under fire towards the end for basically just trying to parry every accusation aimed at him with question after question almost like a rebound. I thought the Mafia train of thought would be to leave him in the game so that the town can lead a lynch against him instead since he was already under the scum radar. Can only think that they had some reason to believe that maybe he had a PR or something. That is on the presumption, of course, that every Mafia kill in this game has some sort of logic behind it.
If anyone was going to die tonight, I definitely did not think it would be asprin. I was sort of half-fearing it would be me since I inadvertently ended up tunneling Surendar. Again, I don't think my suspicions were unfounded but I felt like it wasn't being acknowledged and I ended up going on a bit of a tirade.
I see Surendar trying use the fact that I was trying to lynch him to incriminate me, as if I made it a secret/was covert about it in the first place lol.

 

[CremerCurrans]

My old role was that of a debt collector working for Jabba the Hut. In the role PM the story goes that I was to collect the debt but when it all happened I basically was meant to make an example of him and have him killed. I want to look at anyone who was dead set against the Rudi lynch, but thats a job for tomorrow.[DOUBLEPOST=1500398713][/DOUBLEPOST]^^ to elaborate, Rudi having a debt to Jabba sets him up as a person of questionable character, it wouldn't surprise me if somehow that meant the mafia had something to do with him...

Jack Ryder did include Jabba the Hutt. Does that mean you are a bounty hunter?

 

[CremerCurrans]

These 2 matches, i.e. so Asprin was our town PR, Apsrin's reply and JR's description of night matches. Looks like, Asprin has played well & got defeated after a long battle. May be that is why, he was not contributing much as town PRs usually want to play safe most of the times.

It is unlikely that asprin was given the only power role for the rebellion/town or Jedi. He was a Jedi apprentice meaning that he could have been in conversation with a full Jedi or Jedi master, which might be why his posts here decreased.

 

[surendar]

It is unlikely that asprin was given the only power role for the rebellion/town or Jedi. He was a Jedi apprentice meaning that he could have been in conversation with a full Jedi or Jedi master, which might be why his posts here decreased.

I agree, he might not be the only town PR. If that battle was long enough, just wondering what type it could have been. Asprin felt he didn't give it up that easily and it was acknowledged in day starts' description. It's looking like some kind of puzzle!

Lot of questions running in my mind,
Why did MrsPacman gave the first hint of having to do multiple jobs with 3 teams, was it really a typo or indeed a hint?
How is FPs claim of having ruolph(town member) lynched benefits town? Rudolph did mention in his claim that he has pending duty which JR alone knows, but how does it help town to eliminate Sith? Who is FPs boss that he had to hand over the debt if he had collected from Rudolph, mafia or town? Am not finding logical connection to collect money from town and use it for town unless FP had robbing kind of duty and Rudolph had protecting kind of duty. What if FP is storm trooper like Finn whose boss was from dark side & FP is having the condition to turn as mafia now as he failed his first condition?
Are we here to find some connecting clues to reach Sith for eliminating him? Is he in dark invisible side till then?

Am wondering to an extent that some inactivity from members here like Villain who is usually aggressive and enthusiastic - is it because he should play this in inactive way till we get some clue?

Going insane lol. It's time for me to sleep.

 

[CremerCurrans]

Who is FPs boss that he had to hand over the debt if he had collected from Rudolph, mafia or town?

Fake Passport mentioned that Jabba the Hutt is the one he is collecting the money for. Jabba isn't in the game though, it is just part of his description.

What if FP is storm trooper like Finn whose boss was from dark side & FP is having the condition to turn as mafia now as he failed his first condition?

Finn is a good character, he was a storm trooper, but when he realised what the new empire was doing he became a good character. The only characters that started as good but turned evil are Kylo Ren & Anakin Skywalker.

Are we here to find some connecting clues to reach Sith for eliminating him? Is he in dark invisible side till then?

You might be overcomplicating the game. Fake Passport is either good, bad or a third party, I don't think his role has changed that drastically.

 

[surendar]

You might be overcomplicating the game.

True, I guess I am. With me wondering still about Asprin's last post, what kind of battle it would have been?

Conventionally, Mafia choose a target, cop investigates( worst case does fire a shot due to this theme ) and doctor saves. Word "long battle" doesn't fit here. It's straight forward hit or miss on both sides.

First night - Lot of discussion/talking, shot was fired and missed.
Day 2 - FP had to have Rudolph killed through lynch to collect debt and give to his master. As Rudolph was terminated in unexpected way, FP's condition changed.
Second night- they didn't find any solid, people thought they can attack Asprin from front, but did secret attack and went for long time defeating Asprin. Since it was secretly attacked, Asprin did not know who it was ( as he addressed whoever it was in his last post ).

Common thing on both nights - attack was launched. This is confirming that it was mafia who fired shots on night 1 as well and they were successful on night 2. Also it is making me to feel that mafia is having to find correct person with clue for something( referring to word, they didn't find anything solid. Perhaps map like thing to find Jedi ).

This whole debt collecting thing is not fitting relevant to happenings of nights and it feels isolated to me at the least. What if Rudolph was the person with that clue and FP is lying here? What if win condition earlier was to get the clue from Rudolph after killing him through lynch. I am now having doubts on FP, simply because debt collecting is not fitting these whole scenarios happening.

 

[Fake Passport]

Alright. I'm going to paraphrase the entirety role PM I had originally from JR. Remember I cant directly copy and paste and have to paraphrase. But hopfully this can clear it up and move on.

!!!THIS IN NO WAY IS RELEVANT TO MY ROLE NOW!!!!!

You are employed as a mercenary by Jabba the Hutt. (3rd Party)
Jabba the Hutt sent you to the base to pick up payment for a debt owed by the Finance Officer. With the incursion of the empire into the base your orders have changed, you are now to make an example of him in public by orchestrating his lynch.
Your role is as a lyncher (self-aligned) and your target is Rudi.


Im fast getting to the point of considering that talk about THIS (and not about the other Rudi connection) is scum activity trying to create as much confusion as possible. Rudi is gone and JR has said explicitly my stuff has changed. Why keep harping on about it?

 

[CremerCurrans]

Alright. I'm going to paraphrase the entirety role PM I had originally from JR. Remember I cant directly copy and paste and have to paraphrase. But hopfully this can clear it up and move on.

!!!THIS IN NO WAY IS RELEVANT TO MY ROLE NOW!!!!!

You are employed as a mercenary by Jabba the Hutt. (3rd Party)
Jabba the Hutt sent you to the base to pick up payment for a debt owed by the Finance Officer. With the incursion of the empire into the base your orders have changed, you are now to make an example of him in public by orchestrating his lynch.
Your role is as a lyncher (self-aligned) and your target is Rudi.


Im fast getting to the point of considering that talk about THIS (and not about the other Rudi connection) is scum activity trying to create as much confusion as possible. Rudi is gone and JR has said explicitly my stuff has changed. Why keep harping on about it?

I was just trying to explain some of the details about Star Wars to surendar.

My concern was that your association with a character like Jabba the Hutt meant that you were basically a bounty hunter completing a kill, which you kind of were.

Can you confirm if your new win description is town based or third party aligned?