End Game Star Wars Mafia - End Mafia(Surendar) & Third Party (Fake Passport) Won

[Fake Passport]

I haven't played with swacker recently, but does his playing style in this game imply he is town?

Hes being cautious. Especially compared to the pregame antics.
If it was just that, I would be suggesting hes either PR or Scum. However he has been making a deliberate attempt to change his game style in recent times because we was getting killed off in one manner or another which is casting doubt on that in my mind.

I think the giveaway with him is if he increases posting rates going on through the game.

 

[Villain]

@Fake Passport Where was your suspicion on me during the start of the Day 3? I've started to look scummy to you after I questioned you and why did you not put up a lynch first rather following Rudolph?

I haven't played with swacker recently, but does his playing style in this game imply he is town?

I find Villain a little scummy too but it's Yashdude. You never know with him. :|

May I have a reason? Please?

I'm in a confused state where I'm trying to find what have I done to sound scummy to most if not all.

 

[Fake Passport]

@Fake Passport Where was your suspicion on me during the start of the Day 3? I've started to look scummy to you after I questioned you and why did you not put up a lynch first rather following Rudolph?

I've become suspicious of you principally because your argument against me is role-based when your whole argument has been completely invalidated and you dont seem to get it. Im accusing you of trying to prolong and create the confusion as either scum cover some similar anti-town purpose.

 

[surendar]

@Varun
I am rooting for zwarrior and villain. Zwarrior for sudden jump regarding FP without any solid reason. He said before his last post, FP is back stabbing town and all, and then he jumped to conclusion FP is harmless. It's extreme jump without solid reason. Plus, he got panicked for inactivity when Rudolph was mentioning in general for the duration between night and day. Question was general, and why zwarrior panicked is weird.

Now with all these recent posts, villain is growing to top of scum radar.

• He keeps picking on FP Change of role which is not helping town.
• When I was going through his ISO - found it interesting that, villain was the only one who actually suspected Asprin as cop on day 1, and he clearly told he doesn't think Asprin as mafia but more of a third party on day 2.
• Villain also had a mention of me that I cannot be VT, I was either mafia or town PR.

This is clear that he had Asprin in his as some PR but not as mafia and not as VT. Villain keeps hunting for clues to find PRs- which is the vibe I felt going through his posts. Once I go to my PC I can quote these posts what I was referring.

I feel it as calculated step taken for the last night's kill of Asprin.

@Villain - are you a doc?

 

[Villain]

I've become suspicious of you principally because your argument against me is role-based when your whole argument has been completely invalidated and you dont seem to get it. Im accusing you of trying to prolong and create the confusion as either scum cover some similar anti-town purpose.

You think I can manipulate everyone, nobody is that dumb to follow me and lynch you off if they don't feel so. Did I even lynch you? That is only because I questioned you and yes I might be a bit confused and wrong at the same time regarding your role as I went through most pages at a stretch.

Last thing I'd ask you and post my decision on it is aren't you a third party anymore?

Funny thing is people are ready to get me out based on my activity and when I tend to post and get the activity going I'm scummy. I can't go back and quote the pages proving things he said regarding his role but I'm not pushing for a lynch against him either. If you still don't believe it I don't know what more can I do except for role/character claiming which I never would as I don't think that is how we should be playing the game.

 

[Villain]

He keeps picking on FP Change of role which is not helping town.

Please read my post above, I'm still much confused regarding his role. I do tend to pressurize people and luckily it has worked till now, that's my playstyle. Nothing more to it.

When I was going through his ISO - found it interesting that, villain was the only one who actually suspected Asprin as cop on day 1, and he clearly told he doesn't think Asprin as mafia but more of a third party on day 2.

That was just a random guess and yes he did sounded more to me as a third party as he was playing very safe.

Villain also had a mention of me that I cannot be VT, I was either mafia or town PR.

Again a guess based on your play, why would anyone claim being a VT(makes it easier for the scums to pick PRs).[DOUBLEPOST=1500643891][/DOUBLEPOST]

@Villain - are you a doc?

Why would you ask me that?

 

[Villain]

This is clear that he had Asprin in his as some PR but not as mafia and not as VT. Villain keeps hunting for clues to find PRs- which is the vibe I felt going through his posts. Once I go to my PC I can quote these posts what I was referring.

I've been the least active, I'll wait for the posts where I was hunting for clues.

I gave my best now that I logged in using my computer, please don't get the activity thing back on me.

 

[surendar]

So can I take that answer as no to my question? @Villain especially with cop gone now?

 

[Villain]

So can I take that answer as no to my question? @Villain especially with cop gone now?

Why would I answer that mate and why are you asking it? I don't even want to say if I have a PR or not just to save myself

 

[surendar]

If you're suggesting it being town: only way it could work is if we have a Doc in the game which we are clearly unsure about. And it would make sense only if he got a scum, if he got someone as a townie that is of no use as it clears 1/12.

This is the reason @Villain why I kept asking you because, I wanted to know whether you are soft claiming as doc in that post. With cop(Asprin) gone in this situation, If I was a doc & I am in your situation - I wouldn't hesitate to come forward because I don't think doc would be useful now at this point of time.

You didn't, so you are not.

What should we talk/argue about? I'll still try to get something out.

@asprin Reason to stick with your random vote? Best I could make out of it is you're a Daycop who got him as a mafia.

This is where I find it interesting with Villain developing image of cop on Asprin from Day 1.

I only find it very odd of him to ask people to character claim which gives the game away so easily to the mafias/third party. Either way I'm still not convinced to lynch him.

This bold point - Villain has repeated continuously throughout. I feel, he speaks mafia view rather than assessing the claim to be true or false. It is also another way to put - "oh, so many claims - why are these people confusing on which one to believe". Too many VTs also will confuse mafia because they can't know whether it is a real VT or some town PR trying to hide in VT radar. That is how I felt at the least.

@asprin. He has not helped, had made zero efforts to take the game forward. He hardly seem to care about people character claiming, just seem to be playing very safe and jumping onto the obvious first it was me and now Rudolph. I don't think he's a mafia probably a third party with no team member mentioned. Pretty laid-back with everything else as well.

Villain again solid on what Asprin is. Why not VT?

I also felt, you kept going at Asprin in attempt to try find something out. I have seen you going at inactive people before, way you arrived at these conclusions - it was definitely not the town side of you.

Surendar - He claimed to be a VT, I mean how could you? I feel he's faking it, he's much more experienced to give it away that easily to the mafias. He's a mafia/third party or a town PR, there's no way he could be a VT.

This is another instance where he is trying to find more about PRs & correlates to above point of mine, i.e. too many VT claims confuse mafia well enough.

Lynch: Villain

 

[surendar]

That is only because I questioned you and yes I might be a bit confused and wrong at the same time regarding your role as I went through most pages at a stretch.

I am not able to buy this. Though I am still not sure whether FP is 100% town or not, I was sure that his role changed and JR confirmed it as independent on his previous win condition. With the way, JR announced this(below quote) - I am sure, he(JR) too felt FP's situation would have been lot better if he has announced like this before i.e. after the mod kill & that is why JR made it clear during Pacman replacement as "no changes were made".

Now you telling, that you got confused because you went through pages at a stretch - It is hard to believe. Problem I see here is, there is no issues with you doubting on anybody building case against them but you kept picking that point of role thing as your solid base like an attempt to corner.

@RUDOLPH replaced @MrsPacman , no changes were made.

 

[Villain]

This is the reason @Villain why I kept asking you because, I wanted to know whether you are soft claiming as doc in that post. With cop(Asprin) gone in this situation, If I was a doc & I am in your situation - I wouldn't hesitate to come forward because I don't think doc would be useful now at this point of time.

Seriously? The Doc is not anymore useful for town? Aren't there anymore vanilla townies/PRs in the game who can be saved?

This is where I find it interesting with Villain developing image of cop on Asprin from Day 1.

That was a random wild guess on Day 1 yes, Day 1.

This bold point - Villain has repeated continuously throughout. I feel, he speaks mafia view rather than assessing the claim to be true or false. It is also another way to put - "oh, so many claims - why are these people confusing on which one to believe". Too many VTs also will confuse mafia because they can't know whether it is a real VT or some town PR trying to hide in VT radar. That is how I felt at the least.

I assessed your claim of being a VT, have been stuck on FP's claim of being a third party.

Villain again solid on what Asprin is. Why not VT?

I also felt, you kept going at Asprin in attempt to try find something out. I have seen you going at inactive people before, way you arrived at these conclusions - it was definitely not the town side of you.

His play as a Cop/town was very bad to start off, he was way too quiet and careless about everything. That makes him either a scum/PR/third party.

 

[Villain]

Your bad attempt at confusing and creating things based on nothing like a Day 1 random guess plus jumping after some people lynched while not even having an FOS on me makes my decision very easier. Your post is a just a filler trying to make sense and post a valid reason for lynching me plus contradicting everything by forcing me to claim/come out as a Doc is the scummiest thing ever. Lynch: Surendar[DOUBLEPOST=1500652399][/DOUBLEPOST]I went through FP's posts in detail finally and now I do realize why do I sound scummy to people. I made a big mess, created hell lotta confusion regarding his role.

 

[Villain]

Now you telling, that you got confused because you went through pages at a stretch - It is hard to believe. Problem I see here is, there is no issues with you doubting on anybody building case against them but you kept picking that point of role thing as your solid base like an attempt to corner.

I cannot justify my low activity anymore.

 

[surendar]

Your bad attempt at confusing and creating things based on nothing like a Day 1 random guess plus jumping after some people lynched while not even having an FOS on me makes my decision very easier. Your post is a just a filler trying to make sense and post a valid reason for lynching me plus contradicting everything by forcing me to claim/come out as a Doc is the scummiest thing ever. Lynch: Surendar

Lol, i did not force you - I gave you a last chance to see whether you are a doc. Only he would be bothered to find clues on PR trying to save that person. I still gave benefits of doubt in your favor trying to see whether there are chances for you to be doc.

It is funny - if people are convinced you are acting weird, you say it is solid enough for them to be mafia & if people show you why you are acting weird, then you also say, it is a filler post.[DOUBLEPOST=1500652524][/DOUBLEPOST]

I cannot justify my low activity anymore.

It wasn't related to activity at all. It was related to you coming up with excuse of being confused.