The 10 Greatest Test Batsmen of all time

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Don Bradman
Sachin Tendulkar
Viv Richards
Everton Weeks
Garfield Sobers
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Sunil Gavaskar
Jack Hobbs
Rahul Dravid

A bit uneducated, I don't know TOO much about the guys from the past. But it's a pretty good list I think.

Your selection is near perfect. Good job buddy!

I have just one suggestion ie about Weekes as expalined below:

Sutcliffe

His Test batting average of 60.73 is the fourth highest of any player with a completed career. Don Bradman, Graeme Pollock and George Headley are the only ones with a better test average.

It may be worth mentioning that Sutcliffe?s average never dropped below 60 throughout his entire Test career. That is phenomenal.

Matches: 54 (4,555 Runs, 16 Centuries, 23 Fifties, and Highest Score: 194, Average 60.23)

Weekes

One of The greatest West Indian Batsman of all time.

Matches: 48 (4,455, 15 Centuries, 19 Fifties, and Highest Score: 207, Average 58.61)

As you can see both of them are close though Sutcliffe has a better average of 60.23 compared to Weekes?s 58.61.

Based on the above facts It would only be fair to have them tied instead of having one of them not there at all.

Hope this helps.

Cheers!
 
@z mario

how can you compare a legend Like Sachin with Inzi?

And further expect inzi to be in top 10 test batsmen.

How can a batsmen with only 1 century against australia and no centuries against South africa be included in top ten batsmen list? Its pretty clear that Inzy hasnt been able to perform against the two best teams and was more like a Subcontinent Badshah.

By the end of his career, sachin would have ten centuries against Australia.

Which great AUSSIE or AFRICAN bowler has ever come in praise of Inzi Like they said for Sachin and Lara? None

the fact is a great player has to score runs all over the world , and Inzy is far away from that league, nat even a single hundred against Africa lol

moreover Cricket is a team game, and good bowlers win matches for the team in tests. Had it not been for waqar and wasim, Inzi's century success would have ended up being pretty low .
 
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@z mario

how can you compare a legend Like Sachin with Inzi?

And further expect inzi to be in top 10 test batsmen.

How can a batsmen with only 1 century against australia and no centuries against South africa be included in top ten batsmen list? Its pretty clear that Inzy hasnt been able to perform against the two best teams and was more like a Subcontinent Badshah.

By the end of his career, sachin would have ten centuries against Australia.

Which great AUSSIE or AFRICAN bowler has ever come in praise of Inzi Like they said for Sachin and Lara? None

the fact is a great player has to score runs all over the world , and Inzy is far away from that league, nat even a single hundred against Africa lol

moreover Cricket is a team game, and good bowlers win matches for the team in tests. Had it not been for waqar and wasim, Inzi's century success would have ended up being pretty low .

Welcome javiersuka!

First Chillax(LOL!)

You are entitled to your individual opinion.

First and foremost I said one very important thing.Sachin is Genius. Inzi is not. Inzi is great cricketer. If you did not get this message. Get it now. You are not a good observer(LOL!) Also Genius and Great are not the same thing. Are they? So chillax(LOL!)

What does that overall mean? Sachin is overall better. That should release your tension somewhat(LOL!)?

Also I have put Sachin along with Lara as 2. I dont think any of the readers
have done. Does that mean the readers are wrong about their assessment? Absolutely not. I did that because I believed Sachin and Lara deserved to be there beacuse my assessment was based on a solid rationale.


Who gave you the idea that unless one scores multiple centuries against South Africa and Australia he cannot be dubbed as great Cricketer? That is absolutely wrong.

Non Australian, South African bowlers are not crap or push overs. Are they?

They are pretty close to them.

Do you mean to say Harmison, Flintoff, Hogg, Simon Jones (No australian bowler can match him on Swing) Vaas, Fernando, Zaheer Khan and Irfan Pathan are craps?

Have you seen how Simon Jones, Hogg, Flintoff, Harmison troubled Austalin batsmen and helped England to win Ashes in 2005?

Vaas and Zaheer Khan are world Class - universally accepted .

Barring Warne neither Australia nor Souht Africa can boast of any Quality spinners.Can they?

Muarali, Kumbli and Harbhajan are world class spinners.

Oppostion bowlers are not just the pacers . The spinners play a vital role and can win matches without little or no help from pacers.

Murali, Kumble and Harbhajan has single handedly won matches for their teams.

Inzi has confronted aforementioned quality oppostion with ease because of his enormous batting skills and had the better of them. That is why see him with a 50+ average against them.

It is true Wasim and Waqar played a key role to Palstan's success.That is so true.

But were Wasim and Waqar able to have any success if team did not have a defendable total especially against quality opposition and the man who played the key role in bulding up a respectable/formidable total was none other than one and only Inzi.

Pakistan after the departure of Saeed Anwar and Amir Sohail have not been able to get a settled opening pair. So very frequently they had a poor opening start and top order collapse until Inzi came to the rescue Act. That is why we find Inzi comng at many different positions to steady the innings and taking charge ,graft and build an ininngs and help the team to build a respectable total for the bowlers to have a go at the oppostion.

I do not agree at all to your claim :'Which great AUSSIE or AFRICAN bowler has ever come in praise of Inzi Like they said for Sachin and Lara? None"

That is absolutely wrong.

You can shoot an email to any of the ones if they maintain a website.

I am pretty sure everyone will say He is a great batsman.

Give it a shot to remove your misgivings and get back to me on that as and when you have a response .

BTW I am not a John Arlott or Peter Roebuck(They are masters in Cricket
Analysis) nor anybody here. But I can humbly claim to judge things by reason/rationale and not by emotion.


I am not a Pakistani, Englishman or New Zealander. But I have included all of them in my top 10 list when a few had opposed (they are entitled to do so) because I thought they deserved to be there as it was based on a sound and solid rationale and I will stand by it.

Hope this helps .

Cheers!
 
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Barring Your selection of Shane Warne(He is a bowler - isn't he?) and duplication of Mohammad Yousuf(you have included him twice - once at #7 and again at #10) You have made a formidable Selection - Good job!.

So replace them with 2 other master batsmen you think would be appropriate and you will have even a more formidable selection.

Yuo can do it!

Cheers!

whoops lol sorry

1. Garfield Sobers
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Donald Bradman
4. Shane Warne
5. Jack Hobbs
6. Brian Lara
7. Imran Khan
8. Ricky Ponting
9. Sir Viv Richards
10. Mohammad Yousuf
11. Rahul Dravid

How is that?
 
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Best selection - What's next?Wicketkeeper?.Reincarnation of Gopal Bhar?

whoops lol sorry

1. Garfield Sobers
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Donald Bradman
4. Shane Warne
5. Jack Hobbs
6. Brian Lara
7. Imran Khan
8. Ricky Ponting
9. Sir Viv Richards
10. Mohammad Yousuf
11. Rahul Dravid

How is that?

Best ever selection: 9 batsmen + 1 bowler + 1 All rounder . Can't get better.

What's next? Wicketkeeper?(LOL!)

So far as I am concerned it is a 'Googly' for me.

I can't read a googly. I don't know if others can read.

You remind me of a famous Bengalee Fun Character we had by the name of Gopal Bhar.

Probably King Cricket knows if I assume he is a Bengalee as well.

Master of jokes. Are you a reincarnation of Gopal? What does Cricket King think?

Bottom line: In order to fit your X1 I have to introduce a new thread on Best Cricket X1 of all time.

That will be a challenging task for me at the moment as it requires a lot of time to do that.

If and when we do that you might have the best X1 (Guaranteed LOL!).

Recomendations & Suggestions

At the way you are composing your 10 Greatest Batsman of all time it appears you will be confined to eternally warmng the bench (LOL!).That will do you no good. You are much better than that.

I want you to prove you are the best.

I hope you will be THIRD TIME LUCKY. You can do it!

Good Luck and cheers!
 
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Modern Time 10

Sachin Tendulkar
S.Jayasuriya
B.Lara
R.Ponting
A.Flintoff
K.petersen
M.Vaughan
K.Sangakkara
M.Hayden
A.Gilchrist
 
Welcome tech.007!

Modern Time 10

Sachin Tendulkar
S.Jayasuriya
B.Lara
R.Ponting
A.Flintoff
K.petersen
M.Vaughan
K.Sangakkara
M.Hayden
A.Gilchrist

Welcome tech.007!.

It is a pleasure having you here and appreciate your inputs.

Here's my take.

First and foremost I like your innovative thinking of a Modern Eleven of 10.

A good first attempt except for the facts:

You have included Flintoff who is an allrounder as King crcket rightly pointed out.

Also you have included two wicket keeper batsmen - Gilly and Sangakara.

We are considering pure specialist batsmen only.

Notable ommisions Inzi,Yousuf, Dravid,Chanderpaul,Sehwag.

We have so many modern Batting Masters that it is impossible to fit everyone

as only the very best deserves a place.

So take out Gilly, Sangakara and Flnitoff and replace with three others you think best.

We will all help you . We are at your service(LOL!)



cheers!
 
This is pure batsmen though, not best players. Flintoff's not even the best all-rounder of this generation, let alone all-time either. Kallis is far better than Flintoff, with Sobers, Miller, Imran, Dev, Botham, etc all better from the past.

My Modern Top 10:

Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Rahul Dravid
Matthew Hayden
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Jacques Kallis
Mohammed Yousuf
Mahela Jayawardene
Kevin Pietersen

King Pietersen added 6 Minutes and 24 Seconds later...

How about we change things to a Greatest Players of All-time instead? I'll start us off:

1. Sir Donald Bradman
2. Sir Garfield Sobers
3. Sir Jack Hobbs
4. WG Grace
5. Shane Warne
6. Sir Vivian Richards
7. Sydney Barnes
8. Malcolm Marshall
9. Sachin Tendulkar
10. Adam Gilchrist
 
Welcome back King Pietersen

This is pure batsmen though, not best players. Flintoff's not even the best all-rounder of this generation, let alone all-time either. Kallis is far better than Flintoff, with Sobers, Miller, Imran, Dev, Botham, etc all better from the past.

My Modern Top 10:

Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Rahul Dravid
Matthew Hayden
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Jacques Kallis
Mohammed Yousuf
Mahela Jayawardene
Kevin Pietersen

King Pietersen added 6 Minutes and 24 Seconds later...

How about we change things to a Greatest Players of All-time instead? I'll start us off:

1. Sir Donald Bradman
2. Sir Garfield Sobers
3. Sir Jack Hobbs
4. WG Grace
5. Shane Warne
6. Sir Vivian Richards
7. Sydney Barnes
8. Malcolm Marshall
9. Sachin Tendulkar
10. Adam Gilchrist

Both your selections are quality stuff.

Modern Top 10

You have to take Kallis out as he is an all rounder and the best one around now. Isn't he?

My Modern Top 10:

I have with 3 changes.

Sehwag comes in place of Kallis

Inzi is much better than Yousuf by all means.

Same with Ara vinda De Silva. He is way ahead of Mahela Jayawardene.

So without the least doubt Ara vinda De Silva.

BTW I am happy finally you have Kevin in the Modern 10 (A Moral victory for me - Just Kidding!)

I have the player's name in bold with the ones I have added to your selection.[

Not in sequence.

Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Rahul Dravid
Matthew Hayden
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Sehwag
Inzi
Ara vinda De Silva
Kevin Pietersen

Greatest Players of All-time

I have 4 changes with respect to yours :

I have the player's name in bold with the ones I have added to your selection.

1. Sir Donald Bradman
2. Sir Garfield Sobers
3. Sachin Tendulkar
4. Sir Vivian Richards
5. Sir Jack Hobbs
6. Shane Warne
7. Sunil Gavaskar
8. Murali
9. Imran Khan
10 Adam Gilchrist & Dennis Lille

Cheers!
 

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