Trans-Tasman Trophy (NZ in Australia), December 2011/12
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midgetwars
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I turn on the TV to see hughes on 16 and warner on 47??
How does two openers get such a huge difference?
How does two openers get such a huge difference?
One is David Warner and the other is Phillip Hughes batting for his life...
angryangy
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mostly just the extra boundaries. They over-pitched a few times to Hughes and got lucky with a couple of off drives, but mostly just pulled the length back and bowled a bit straighter. At Warner they've kept looking for the drive and seen it plenty of times.
formula1man
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I'm sorry but New Zealand just suck, I have seen them come and play two summers here and I havent seen much good from them, I've seen two good bowling spells, a good innings by Oram in the ODI at Perth and the 5 match chappel hadlee series theyd rew 2-2, apart from that they cant bat in tests, its just frustrating, i like the kiwis and i want a contest, but they always seem to disappoint.
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will admit that I was wrong about warner. he seemed to have thought this innings out really well. even if he does want to attack all the time at least he's not just going out there and pulling the bat back. he's walking across the stumps, going forward, leaving some and looking comfortable while doing it. it will be interesting if NZ do decided to go on the defensive, can he just wait it out? given his FC scores are quite good I'd reckon so.
still not convinced by hughes, and I think watson should return to the opening spot in his place.
still not convinced by hughes, and I think watson should return to the opening spot in his place.
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I guess you never watch Dravid and Sehwag opening together. When they had that opening partnership of 410 against pakistan, On the first day dravid was around 29 when sehwag reached his hundred
puddleduck
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Warner actually tried to do the right things in the first innings as well. He tried to get forward and tried to get out of his crease. Not gonna win them all 
mrtwisties
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Can still remember Warner against Steyn in that Twenty20 International, right at the end of that period where Steyn had been hammering every batsman in Australia all summer long. Fantastic innings. I've been hoping he'd come good ever since - and who knows, maybe he's about to? I'd settle for a poor man's Sehwag, to be honest: average in the low 40s and a strike rate of 60+.
Rohit Doshi
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Well, its Australia who is going to win. Teams like England, South Africa, India do things which is known as dont let opposition in the match when you are ahead. New Zealand did well in scoring 140 odd runs last night but getting allout for 80 runs is really BS.
They did not pick up Hughes?
Come on thats when you know Aussies are back
They did not pick up Hughes?
Come on thats when you know Aussies are back
Rohit Doshi
International Coach
Ohk, I never saw the match. Just posted on basis of score.
Warner got most of his extra runs on straight drives. Hughes isn't confident enough at present to push hard straight down the ground - he'll smack the wide one but not the straight one. Warner has no such qualms, and that's one real strength of his batting his ability to play straight.
Warner actually tried to do the right things in the first innings as well. He tried to get forward and tried to get out of his crease. Not gonna win them all
I agree with that, his footwork was generally excellent. But I don't so much like his batwork. I really do think he's going to nick a lot of balls with the way he comes at the ball. He'll get some boundaries and will do well against poor opening bowlers and on lifeless wickets, but when testing conditions come I think he'll fail more often than not. So basically he'll look a million dollars up until 2013 Ashes when he gets sorted out...
I look at both Warner and Hughes and I wonder how on earth they got to be specialist openers, because traditionally openers play with soft hands, leave the ball well and have solid techniques - Warner and Hughes have none of these. I guess they were thrust up the top of the order as junior cricketers because weren't scared by pace and they could give the other teams opening bowlers some hammer, but does that mean they should stay there? I think they'd make better Test #6s personally. The guy with the best opening skillset is currently MEK Hussey, but they'll never put him up the top again with all these young 'openers' coming through.
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good effing point. I remember cook used to get a bit of slack for his 40ish average and slow scoring but he was still regularly surviving a lot of overs and I always thought that was the whole point of an opener. it's easy to say sehwag has changed the ball game but that can't be all teams are thinking.
there's quite a few active threads right now but when some of those have dried up I'm going to make one about batting orders because to be frank, I do not really understand them (and why they are rigorously adhered to regardless of conditions and match situation). Whenever someone says "he plays like no. x" I'm just sort of thinking, "er why?"
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