West Indian Tour of India, 2013: Sachin's 200th Test Appearance

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Squad: Dwayne Bravo (capt), Tino Best, Darren Bravo, Johnson Charles, Narsingh Deonarine, Chris Gayle, Jason Holder, Sunil Narine, Veerasammy Permaul, Kieran Powell, Denesh Ramdin, Ravi Rampaul, Darren Sammy, Marlon Samuels, Lendl Simmons

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Squad: MS Dhoni (capt), Shikhar Dhawan, Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, Yuvraj Singh, Suresh Raina, Ravindra Jadeja, R Ashwin, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Mohammed Shami, Ambati Rayudu, Amit Mishra, Jaydev Unadkat, Dhawal Kulkarni, Mohit Sharma

So Ishant Sharma and Vinay Kumar are dropped and in comes Mohit Sharma and Dhawal Kulkarni. I am not too sure on Dhawal Kulkarni, I mean we already have enough of this medium pacers, why do you want to add another? I would have given Varun Aaron a chance just to see how he is doing before the important South Africa series.

Rohit Sharma
Shikhar Dhawan
Virat Kohli
Suresh Raina
Yuvraj Singh
M.S.Dhoni
Ravindra Jadeja
Ravi Ashwin
B.Kumar
Shami Ahmed
Mohit Sharma
 
^ Is Varun Aaron back from injury ? Last I heard he had a recurring back injury
 
But Shami is excellent in India @ debut and SA pitches are for Shami type bowlers.
 
But having said that, Sammy doesn't feature in the team as a front line bowler, nor does he qualify as a top order batsmen. He is there for his overall contribution to the team. And talking about captaincy, if not Sammy, then who? Who looks good enough to captain the side? Chanderpaul is 39, the rest of them aren't matured enough to lead the side.

Your point about Sammy's bowling since the time he took up captaincy is very valid. And that is exactly what I think, if he is in the side, he needs to start contributing more.
If you take a look here,
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most of the time he ends up under utilising himself, he takes himself off from the attack very early and doesn't bowl long spells, whenever he has bowled a fair amount of overs, he has been amongst wickets. He needs to back himself and bowl long spells and not get too concerned with his captaincy and team management.

Batting at number 7 or 6 would give him a bit more time at the crease, and that would also put a lot more responsibility.

He under utilizes himself with all, doesn't bowl long spells etc because in my view he himself knows he would be ineffective with the ball.

In the first test we saw Shillingford bowl unchanged in the 1st session on day 2, en route to bowling 41 overs on day 1. Despite how well Shilly was bowling, that was ridiculous amount of bowling for a spinner & shows very poor bowling management.

This was the same thing was done when Davendra Bishoo was in the side, the youngster bowled a ridiculous amount of overs @ one end, while Sammy hid himself from the attack. This many suspect caused the youngster who wasn't ranked ICC emerging player of the year for nothing, to fall of the radar.

The main problem for WI is the lack of consistent batsmen in the team,
Chanderpaul is batting at 5 which is strange and inexplicable considering his form, his experience and the fact that no other batsmen looks good enough to bat at no.3 except him.

I don't really agree the C'Paul batting @ # 3. Remember when AUS were in a similar transition phase in their test team in the late 1980s when Border was head & shoulder the best batsman - he didn't bat @ 3.

Even when AUS were dominant - Steve Waugh the clear best batsman batted @ # 5.

If C'Paul goes to three, teams will look @ AUS as "we just need to get C'Paul early then we get a weak middle-order to bowl at".

Plus one must consider that he is age 39.

Bravo & Samuels have all the talent and ability to be long term consistent # 3's & 4's. They just need to be more consistent.

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TBH, the things going on in India in the context of Tendulkar's retirement that are on outside the cricket field are too over the top. Yes, he is probably the best batsman of his time but he is just a cricketer, not an independence struggle hero. Anyway, one positive development before the 2nd test for WI is that Gabriel is expected to feature in the last match. That should certainly give some chance for us. He should replace Cottrell as I think they would not want to axe an experienced bowler like Best (though he has done nothing special so far) at this point of time.

Ye i don't mind the farewell Tendy has been afforded, he certainly deserves it. I'm sure if you had asked many past batting greats if they could have gotten the chance to end their career perfectly they would take it.

The problem as commentator Mohammed highlighted as most fans are aware is how the BCCI has manipulated and disrespected the ICC FTP to involve this tour, along with their insult for CSA, which is another topic by itself.

The BCCI never consulted or asked the ICC if they could possibly arrange this tour out of the FTP, to give the ICC the option to reject or allow them. They just went along with it as the bloody please bcause as we all, they are the defacto ICC of cricket.

On windies team as we have discussed before, the team will never be properly balanced even if Gabriel plays once Sammy is in it.

I know it won't happen since the WICB selectors & coach are in their own idiot bubble, but either let Gayle captain in this one of tests or promote K Edwards to do the job. Also drop Ramdin for Walton, bring in Deonarine:

Gayle, K Edwards, D Bravo, Samuels, C'Paul, Deonarine, Walton, Shillingford, Best, Cotterell, Gabriel.
 
In the first test we saw Shillingford bowl unchanged in the 1st session on day 2, en route to bowling 41 overs on day 1. Despite how well Shilly was bowling, that was ridiculous amount of bowling for a spinner & shows very poor bowling management.

This was the same thing was done when Davendra Bishoo was in the side, the youngster bowled a ridiculous amount of overs @ one end, while Sammy hid himself from the attack. This many suspect caused the youngster who wasn't ranked ICC emerging player of the year for nothing, to fall of the radar.

Yes, this has been a problem with Sammy of generally underbowling himself and let the other bowlers, particularly the spinners in the subcontinent work like dogs. Some people (including myself) are wondering what was Permaul doing in the side if he was not to bowl long spells when India were building up a partnership like they did? The answer probably lies in the an interview where I read Clive Lloyd being quoted saying WI needs a good left arm spinner along with Narine and Shane. This, I think, is an indication that WI wanted to try out a left arm spinner over Narine just to have a look at what he can do in the subcontinent conditions and when he did not deliver the goods, he was taken away but if that is true, the whole idea of giving the nod to Permaul in the side seems ridiculous.

I don't really agree the C'Paul batting @ # 3. Remember when AUS were in a similar transition phase in their test team in the late 1980s when Border was head & shoulder the best batsman - he didn't bat @ 3.

Even when AUS were dominant - Steve Waugh the clear best batsman batted @ # 5.

If C'Paul goes to three, teams will look @ AUS as "we just need to get C'Paul early then we get a weak middle-order to bowl at".

Plus one must consider that he is age 39.

Bravo & Samuels have all the talent and ability to be long term consistent # 3's & 4's. They just need to be more consistent.

Can't agree more. WI, thankfully does not have a problem of inexperienced or technically flawed batsmen at the top of the order so #5 perfectly suits Chanders especially with a flurry of walking wickets to follow and the veteran's great record with tailenders.(He averages about 60 scoring over 8400 runs off 106 tests he has batted at #5 or #6).

Ye i don't mind the farewell Tendy has been afforded, he certainly deserves it. I'm sure if you had asked many past batting greats if they could have gotten the chance to end their career perfectly they would take it.

The problem as commentator Mohammed highlighted as most fans are aware is how the BCCI has manipulated and disrespected the ICC FTP to involve this tour, along with their insult for CSA, which is another topic by itself.

The BCCI never consulted or asked the ICC if they could possibly arrange this tour out of the FTP, to give the ICC the option to reject or allow them. They just went along with it as the bloody please bcause as we all, they are the defacto ICC of cricket.

On windies team as we have discussed before, the team will never be properly balanced even if Gabriel plays once Sammy is in it.

I know it won't happen since the WICB selectors & coach are in their own idiot bubble, but either let Gayle captain in this one of tests or promote K Edwards to do the job. Also drop Ramdin for Walton, bring in Deonarine:

Gayle, K Edwards, D Bravo, Samuels, C'Paul, Deonarine, Walton, Shillingford, Best, Cotterell, Gabriel.

Umm, yes. Tendulkar has been an epitome of technique and aggressiveness in cricket and host or people world over who have/would take/n up the sport would love to emulate the legend and he deserves all the paeans in the world but as you mentioned, BCCI has played a spoil sport here by not only usurping the powers not vested in it (!) in an attempt to host a grand farewell for probably their greatest cricketer making other boards (read CSA) and the governing council itself as their puppet. It is high time, ICC should take the matters in their hands and be potent enough to show them who is the boss or at least tell them about the repercussions for any acts done without authority not taking into account the board's opulence but whatever one may say, we all know that ICC will continue to remain acquiescent against BCCI.

Right, Gabriel's inclusion certainly would not be a series turner thing for WI but at least they can hope to look a quality test attack.
 
Will Narine will be back?

He is in the ODI squad and so is Permaul. Narine will of course get the nod. Another noteworthy thing about the ODI squad is that we have Simmons and Charles in the side. I hope Charles does not get injured. We need him to don the keeper's gloves in all three matches.
 
For cricket fans outside India, Tendulkar might just be a fine cricketer but in India he meant more. Firstly, unlike England and Australia, India demographics is`nt homogenous. For a multi-religious, multi-linguistic nation, Cricket is one unifying factor. Tendulkar has thus been a unifying factor in this huge nation, a common idol for all those masses who prayed to different Gods, spoke tongues as different to each other as with any foreign language. He debuted when India`s aspirations weren`t great globally and we were not highly ambitious. His rise coincided with the growth of the Indian economy, the explosion of electronic media and finally the rise of India as a cricketing superpower, both on and off the field. To think of it, its hard to think of one Indian figure other than Tendulkar who has such pan-India following which is what is his greatest achievement. He was loved equally by the Madrasi, Bengali and the Marathi alike! For all of them, he was their own irrespective of where he belonged to.

Tendulkar`s story for me is thus yet another story of sport transcending boundaries. That and the grace with which he played the sport and yet reached the top is something that is the overpowering message.
 
That day is fast approaching. Starting today for his huge kingdom of fans, use up all the time you have on your hands to watch Sachin one last time. And be ready to bring out the kerchiefs to wipe out those tears. Its going to flow quite a bit that last day. People who laugh at this, will keep doing so. They won't understand the emotions and the psyche of Indian fans. We are emotional people, and we don't feel embarrassed by being so.
 
Why did Dravid never get the farewell that Sachin is getting btw? BCCI basically created a series for Sachin so why not Dravid.
 
Why did Dravid never get the farewell that Sachin is getting btw? BCCI basically created a series for Sachin so why not Dravid.

People love Rahul Dravid, and he was a great batsman, no doubt. He definitely deserved a very nice goodbye. However, Tendulkar unites all of India. He's been playing for so long. Every kid upon picking up a cricket bat in India acts like he's Sachin. It's beyond just the records. Honestly though, I think Tendulkar, Ganguly, and Dravid all should've received this sort of farewell. But if I had to choose a most deserving, it has to be Tendulkar.
 
That was predictably shit for the West Indies. 182 all out. Shocking test side.
 

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