West Indian Tour of India, 2013: Sachin's 200th Test Appearance

[AMB]

Pujara 14 matches 23 innings 4 Notouts 1197 Runs 206* best And the main thing Average of 63.00(2nd best after D.Bradman)

 

[vaibhavtewatia]

^He hasn't played much outside India, so I'll wait to compare him with the greats.

 

[surendar]

Pujara 14 matches 23 innings 4 Notouts 1197 Runs 206* best And the main thing Average of 63.00(2nd best after D.Bradman)

'I can also write Big' is really not required, everyone can read even if it is normal without resizing.

 

[War]

Players in a BCCI pappyshow | Trinidad Express Newspaper | Sports

Notable windies commentator Fazeer Mohammed has hit the nail on the head here.

 

[macintosh]

Sry man, you have got it all wrong.

Firstly if you look at the stats of all the bowlers used (that have played more than 1 tests so thus Andre Russell & Cottrell would be ignored) by the windies since Sammy became captain officially during the Galle test of 2010 vs Sri Lanka to the just concluded Kolkotta test you would see Sammy's bowling average is among the worst.

Rampaul: 13 tests, 45 wickets @ 28.13

Roach: 16 tests, 59 wickets @ 26.84

Best: 7 tests, 20 wickets @ 23.30

Shillingford: 8 tests, 45 wickets @ 25.46

Edwards: 12 tests, 43 wickets @ 33.44

Gabriel: 3 tests, 10 wickets @ 17

Bishoo: 11 tests, 40 wickets @ 39 & was ICC emerging player before Sammy bowled him into the ground

Permaul: 10 wickets in 3 tests @ 32 - Veerasammy Permaul | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo

Narine: 15 wickets in 5 tests @ 48 - Sunil Narine | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo. However most cricket fans can appreciate he is better bowler than these figures suggests.

Sammy has 50 wickets @ 39.12 with ball in his 26 tests as captain, along with scoring 897 runs @ 23.00 .

Sammy is good captain, but as others have articulated also he is no Mike Brearley type brilliant captain that the windies can do like what England did in 70s/80s & can simply just pick on the sense of some amazing tactical & man management skills that he has. This theory of "Sammy the captain" has been disproved already many times.

He simply is not or has never been good enough for test cricket. He is only good enough to captain & play in the T20/ODI teams. Simple stuff.

I agree with you partially,
There have been guys who have done well comparatively since the time he has taken up captaincy, although their overall record might not be that impressive but their recent performance has been quite good.

But having said that, Sammy doesn't feature in the team as a front line bowler, nor does he qualify as a top order batsmen. He is there for his overall contribution to the team. And talking about captaincy, if not Sammy, then who? Who looks good enough to captain the side? Chanderpaul is 39, the rest of them aren't matured enough to lead the side.

Your point about Sammy's bowling since the time he took up captaincy is very valid. And that is exactly what I think, if he is in the side, he needs to start contributing more.
If you take a look here,
Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
most of the time he ends up under utilising himself, he takes himself off from the attack very early and doesn't bowl long spells, whenever he has bowled a fair amount of overs, he has been amongst wickets. He needs to back himself and bowl long spells and not get too concerned with his captaincy and team management.

Batting at number 7 or 6 would give him a bit more time at the crease, and that would also put a lot more responsibility.


The main problem for WI is the lack of consistent batsmen in the team,
Chanderpaul is batting at 5 which is strange and inexplicable considering his form, his experience and the fact that no other batsmen looks good enough to bat at no.3 except him.

Ramdin's spot in the team is also a bit of a concern, he doesn't look like he can contribute regularly with the bat in a team which is already struggling with their batting.

If they have a settled top 6, than they will be a very difficult team to beat.

 

[SaiSrini]

The ticketing site kyazoonga.com has now crashed. Test match tickets will never get attention ever again.

Ya... Read that in the news today. IMHO, interest in test match cricket in India is going to take a pretty sharp dip after Tendulkar's retirement.

Kolkata must have been deprived of watching two additional days of Sachin Tendulkar playing one of his final 2 tests. They must be cursing Rohit Sharma, Ashwin, Shami and the rest of the team for finishing up the test in 3 days. They must be cursing WI as well.

Hope the Wankhede gets to see a full 5 day test. TBH (brutally honest), the cricket is of least importance here. Even if India loses, I don't care. This is the tribute for the master and the nation should queue up to watch him ONE LAST TIME play for the country.

 

[abhi_jacko]

Even if India loses, I don't care. This is the tribute for the master and the nation should queue up to watch him ONE LAST TIME play for the country.

That would be pretty disturbing if we lost the second test - if not anything else, it would be a terrible last game tribute for the Master

If people are looking for drama and irony, I think the most dramatic thing would be Sachin getting out on 99 :P The greatest century maker missing the milestone one final time by 1 run. Media will have a field day *I pray this doesn't happen though*

 

[SaiSrini]

That would be pretty disturbing if we lost the second test - if not anything else, it would be a terrible last game tribute for the Master

If people are looking for drama and irony, I think the most dramatic thing would be Sachin getting out on 99 :P The greatest century maker missing the milestone one final time by 1 run. Media will have a field day *I pray this doesn't happen though*

I would rather prefer a more positive drama with that of India needing to chase a stiff target, Sachin scores a century and takes home India with just 1 wicket to spare.

 

[abhi_jacko]

That would be wonderful, but it would like irony :P

big fan of irony here

 

[SaiSrini]

That would be wonderful, but it would like irony :P

big fan of irony here

I just wish though that the opposition was more challenging. No offence to WI, but I just wish the opposition was more challenging for these two special tests.

Hope the wickets are not doctored. I don't want Sachin to go out with the accusation that wickets were created to help him sign out on a high.

 

[surendar]

If Sachin gets to 99, pressure for him would be massive than the one he underwent for his 100th century. I really hope, Sachin gets to any milestone and I am so eager to see him lifting his bat for one last time. Draw would be great match result to watch as there would be chances for 2 innings.

Well it is so selfish of me but who cares, it is time to witness a good send-off.

 

[shravi]

I just want to see India win; Sachin's runs will be a bonus. Sachin has already scored enough runs in his career for me to remember him by. A few more would be great, but not at the expense of a result.

 

[Samuels]

Players in a BCCI pappyshow | Trinidad Express Newspaper | Sports

Notable windies commentator Fazeer Mohammed has hit the nail on the head here.

TBH, the things going on in India in the context of Tendulkar's retirement that are on outside the cricket field are too over the top. Yes, he is probably the best batsman of his time but he is just a cricketer, not an independence struggle hero. Anyway, one positive development before the 2nd test for WI is that Gabriel is expected to feature in the last match. That should certainly give some chance for us. He should replace Cottrell as I think they would not want to axe an experienced bowler like Best (though he has done nothing special so far) at this point of time.

 

[Mj Blast]

The whole point of keeping West Indies series in India was to honor Sachin in India for the 200th Test.

 

[abhi_jacko]

TBH, the things going on in India in the context of Tendulkar's retirement that are on outside the cricket field are too over the top. Yes, he is probably the best batsman of his time but he is just a cricketer, not an independence struggle hero.

What BCCI is doing is ridiculous and f888ed up, but the media and fan frenzy is expected. He might not be a revolutionary hero or a martyr, but for Indians he will always be a LOT more than just the best batsman of his time

This might sound cheesy, but throughout his career he really was a major source of hope and inspiration for Indian fans. Loved by people from all parts of the country - men, women, kids, seniors, you name it. And for cricket fans like me whose growing years and interested in cricket synced with the rise of Sachin, it is by all means the end of an era. The frenzy is totally natural IMO