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Pietersen's spent way to much time with Warney. With Warne gone, you feel as if Pietersen's taken the inititive by Warne's attitude & how he plays the game so arrogantly.

Amazing how in the space of 2 years how one player becomes a team's only hope.
 
thats due to 2 things..

1. The shere volume of runs he has scored in BOTH forms ofthe game..

2. The complete lack of runs scored by everyone in ODI during that same period (excluding collingwood)

you could make a decent arguement for droping all other players based on their lack of runs scored..
 
Loye should never have been dropped. Yeah big deal he's 34, but the fact remains that England haven't had a positive start since he was discarded.
 
Windies doing it easily at the moment. Looks like it's still the same England--brilliant at tests and pathetic at ODI's. Let's hope these are just teething problems, but their batting still doesn't look very promising.
 
England must be missing Nixon :) he played superb during world Cup ;)
 
Broad is out and it seems there are now five slips in the field.
 
If you are calling Cook, Bell and Prior not decent then you aren't the most observant of cricket fans.
 
i meant decent 1-day batsmen....who will make the most of the fielding restrictions (you know.. like ALL other ODI teams but us)
 
WTH. England were so awesome at the start of the series, and such a big, abrupt fall!
chander's been amazing. And the come back of Fiddle sticks has been great for the windies.
 
i meant decent 1-day batsmen....who will make the most of the fielding restrictions (you know.. like ALL other ODI teams but us)
But that's exactly why they're sucking so hard. They have to play their own game, not someone else's.

Today's game
West Indies 1/93 (20.0)
England 4/84 (20.0)

The previous game
West Indies 2/84 (20.0)
England 3/95 (20.0)

Neither team got anywhere near 6 an over and in the last game, England had done a better job of scoring, but both times, England had used more wickets and both times, England was comprehensively defeated. Sure, having a Jayasuriya or Smith or Gilchrist open is an advantage, but scoring slowly is a secondary problem to bleeding wickets. You can always increase the run rate, but you can't buy back wickets. If the plan is right, even a cautious player like Chanderpaul shows destructive tendencies.

If they were struggling to chase 300+ totals set by South Africa, Sri Lanka or Australia, then we could talk about how they need a batsman who can turn a Powerplay on its head. However, they're not having that problem, they're struggling to chase sub 300 totals against a team that is regarded as one of the worst.

Mind you, England have a damaging batsman who's apparently too chicken to play in the top order. Consult him about the Powerplays.
 
Well disappointment in the end but I was at the game and it was a great days play. Great batting from Gayle, Bravo and Morton. 114 off the last 10 was a great sight to the game. The biggest cheer of the day was from the Monty edge for four past the slips of Fiedel Edwards. We just went crazy lol :p
 
The game has just finished (Aus, just showed on Pay-TV:p).

Well played Windies! When they play well and get their tails up, its lovely to watch them go! Im glad they won the series over there, and I can only think of how the England fans must be feeling now. Ive only read about 4-5 posts on this page, and most of them are telling each other how England have mucked up or why they have lost or why they played bad.

Notice the avatar change aswell:)

Dwayne Bravo is god.
Hence the Avatar change:D

Loye should never have been dropped. Yeah big deal he's 34, but the fact remains that England haven't had a positive start since he was discarded.

thats due to 2 things..

1. The shere volume of runs he has scored in BOTH forms ofthe game..

2. The complete lack of runs scored by everyone in ODI during that same period (excluding collingwood)

you could make a decent arguement for droping all other players based on their lack of runs scored..

Pietersen's spent way to much time with Warney. With Warne gone, you feel as if Pietersen's taken the inititive by Warne's attitude & how he plays the game so arrogantly.

Amazing how in the space of 2 years how one player becomes a team's only hope.
 
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