Psych-Ward Mafia - Night 4!!

[Gaurav_7]

Yea Sure you did. And had I not replied properly are in detail I would have been townie right? You are just seeing me as a mafia and everything I do, right or wrong will make you think I am mafia.

It will make me think you are a mafia because you actually seem to be one. Especially the bit 'Someone had to go'. It was only if we decided. Had we been smart, Varun could be saved. You were the one too anxious for the kill. And, I'm saying again my lynch stays.

To others, I'd like to say that we should take the chance and go for BKB. I know we have lost the townies already but even if we find one mafia at least at this stage we will have a very good chance of winning. I'm very sure he's the mafia.

 

[ARay]

Hedger is definitely interesting as he is relatively having a quite game as well.
I would also like to point out that Aditya has not posted much and is not providing any discussions at all to this thread.

Lynch: Aditya
Lets hope that gives you an incentive to post.

 

[Ollie_H]

Considering it's his first game, if he was mafia he would probably be a lot more active rather than not being active. Which leads me to believe he could very well be town.

 

[ARay]

That an interesting theory Ollie,
But these are the only two posts he has done so far. Popped in accsued Varun with the crowd then lynched Varun with the crowd.
Plus he is posting as much as Shan Rooney did for wrestling mafia (which is not much at all). SR ended up as mafia.

Not saying he cannot be an innocent townie, but my vote stays till he starts contributing his ideas to this thread. because one cannot analyze anything if the person does not post anything substantial.

FOS : Varun

Lynching User2010 for no reason.

Lynch: Varun

It's Varun or no lynch as BKB mentioned.

 

[Ollie_H]

SR ended up as mafia.

The thing with SR was that you could tell he was mafia by the way he posted. Especially after one of the lynchings or night kills when he played the 'noob mafia card' saying everything you would expect one to say and then Blake wrote him that post and he posted it which was fairly obvious.

I do agree that Aditya has been much quieter and it is a lot harder to analyse but he also hasn't made any complete noob posts to suggest he would be either.

 

[BKB1991]

I can say safely that Aditya was online for most of the day.

@ User, I was not "too anxious for a kill", I clearly put it up for discussion that whether or not we wanted to go for a lynch today or not, and then I saw people starting voting so I went too.

I think you are just getting vibes, and to that I cant help.

 

[ARay]

Interesting quote there Abhas. So does that make it two?

Two things for sure is, if Varun is mafia so is Hedger, and if Varun ends up a townie so is hedger. Either way we could lynch Varun to find out whether he ends up mafia?

The question really is whether we want a lynch @ Day 1 or not? If so, I reckon Varun has got to be the one, as it will also clear us out on Hedger. So shall we lynch him then?

Ollie you are suspicious of Hedger. But what do you think of this quote from BKB. Do you agree or disagree?
BKB do you feel hedger is innocent based on you assumption here?

 

[Chewie]

Yeah, that's it.



Ah, indirectly wanting to know who is who so that your fellow members and you can kill them.

Anyone noticed Bilal is defending himself a bit too much? That is what I wanted to see. I am very sure he's the mafia.

User2010 added 6 Minutes and 11 Seconds later...


Actually, it was you were the one who confused the people.

I don't think 'defending yourself too much' is really any good justification for being a mafia. If he didn't then you would think he was mafia anyway so it's a lose-lose scenario. Like the tests for witches in the old days, dump them in a lake, if they drowned they weren't a witch, if they floated they were a witch and should be killed.

As User said, and I have stated, I have always been for lynching on the first day as if a no-lynch majority is reached it just gives the mafia a free kill in the night and the town don't get any chance to analyse any of the situations. Now we have managed to have a series of discussions picking up on people's posts and we could be closer to finding out the mafia.

Whilst everyone is questioning Abhas and BKB, I'd like to bring up the case of hedger_14. He has been relatively quiet (as have I, I had a football tournament when it started and am trying to improve my grades at school) and has only contributed a few thoughts to the actual discussion. He was the one who placed the hammer vote on Varun and that can always be a dangerous thing to do. He said that 'I have already placed suspicion on him and although I didn't really want to lynch him on Day 1' yet he had only pointed his 'worry' out once rather than actually interrogating him. Even though others might have, hedger never acted on any of his morals. He also only seemed to act as 'It's his first game', this just makes him a quick an easy target for a mafia player.

So, after this FOS: hedger_14

Considering it's his first game, if he was mafia he would probably be a lot more active rather than not being active. Which leads me to believe he could very well be town.

Those are two interesting theories. But one contradicts the other. You're FOSing Hedger because he hasn't been very active, but then saying that if Aditya was mafia then he would be active. So therefore Hedger shouldn't be mafia.

 

[ARay]

Those are two interesting theories. But one contradicts the other. You're FOSing Hedger because he hasn't been very active, but then saying that if Aditya was mafia then he would be active. So therefore Hedger shouldn't be mafia.

Thats a good point raised chewie, but I think he means it from the point of view that he has watched hedger play other mafia games where he has been more active. He has been lurking more in this game. Trying to stay below the radar. It does not mean he IS mafia as he can certainly be that he is busy, however, an experienced player, not offering substantial posts are often reason for concern.

Chewie what do you think of hedger position. Reading Back I have noticed that you did not vote for anyone on the first day. Did you forget to vote?

 

[BKB1991]

Ollie you are suspicious of Hedger. But what do you think of this quote from BKB. Do you agree or disagree?
BKB do you feel hedger is innocent based on you assumption here?

Well just in case anyone mentions it, I based my statement on this:

FOS: Varun

It's his first game so I'm unsure whether he's just eager to get playing or he's nervous as a mafia in his first game. There's no point in getting rid of him this early as he will probably make a few mistakes if he is mafia later on in the game so for now, I will just have my suspicion on him.

It was a subtle defense of Varun from Hedger, making me think that if Varun turned out to be mafia, Hedger could be his confirmed partner. Thats one of the reasons I also went for the lynch on Varun. But seeing as Varun turned out to be town, that means either Hedger is a townie, or a very smart mafia player. His next post:

Lynch: Varun

I have already placed suspicion on him and although I didn't really want to lynch him on Day 1, he hasn't defended himself well so even if he isn't a mafia, he may be of a cult or what some people before have been saying, the pyschopath.

To an extent it is contradictory to his earlier one, but I think its the case of going 'with the flow' if you ask me.

I am not really sure though I reckon its a 60-40 case of Hedger being a townie than a mafia.

 

[Ollie_H]

Those are two interesting theories. But one contradicts the other. You're FOSing Hedger because he hasn't been very active, but then saying that if Aditya was mafia then he would be active. So therefore Hedger shouldn't be mafia.

Yep, and the difference is the experience that both players have. hedger as a more experienced player would be active no matter what has he knows that not being actives leads to claims of mafia and then even if he is a townie he still has the ability to influence things.

A very 'noob' way of thinking is that, 'oh i'm only a small towns person, I can't really do anything so what's the point in being active.' Which is where I think Aditya is at, whenever I had new players in one of my games I would try and give them a more active role as it meant they would be active.

That's why my statements seem contradictory, but really it is down to the experience that both the players have.

It was a subtle defense of Varun from Hedger, making me think that if Varun turned out to be mafia, Hedger could be his confirmed partner. Thats one of the reasons I also went for the lynch on Varun. But seeing as Varun turned out to be town, that means either Hedger is a townie, or a very smart mafia player.

What about if the mafia were trying to find someone and they though Varun could be the one? I mean Zorax posted this, in his pitiful attempt at a write up ();

Joeseph had a bad feeling about this

So unless I read too much into it, it's almost like one of them didn't want to do anything. For all we could know is that Zorax is keeping away a hidden role for Varun as it could have changed the game if he had posted it with his role.

This one is obviously a lot harder to decipher, but I still have my FOS on hedger_14. Although I may turn that into a lynch before I go to bed.

 

[ARay]

It was a subtle defense of Varun from Hedger, making me think that if Varun turned out to be mafia, Hedger could be his confirmed partner. Thats one of the reasons I also went for the lynch on Varun. But seeing as Varun turned out to be town, that means either Hedger is a townie, or a very smart mafia player.

Hedger defending Varun who is confirmed townie. Hmmmmm.
I actually would consider Hedger to be in my townie list had it not been for the fact that Hedger did place the hammer on Varun despite being unconvinced.

 

[Chewie]

Thats a good point raised chewie, but I think he means it from the point of view that he has watched hedger play other mafia games where he has been more active. He has been lurking more in this game. Trying to stay below the radar. It does not mean he IS mafia as he can certainly be that he is busy, however, an experienced player, not offering substantial posts are often reason for concern.

Chewie what do you think of hedger position. Reading Back I have noticed that you did not vote for anyone on the first day. Did you forget to vote?

I FOS'ed Varun but if I wanted to vote it would be the lynching vote and I'm not sure I wanted to do that. So I left Hedger to do it.

And the experience explanation makes sense

 

[ARay]

I think I will give a general view of my fellow players that I feel at this point.
Abhas- is active and is an experienced player. null read
BKB - plays carefully and keeps his cards to his chest. null read

Ollie: Solid poster as always. did not vote for Varun. leaning psycho (gut feeling)
Chewie: Cautious game, making a superb effort to read and understand situation. leaning townie
User2010: Tunnelling into BKB right now (not necessarily a bad thing). Leaning townie.
Hedger: A bit too quiet for my liking, not offered any substantial posts. Placed the hammer on Varun. null read
Aditya: Posted two posts. Null read.

I am up for a Hedger/ BKB/ Abhas/ Aditya lynch today. Not that I have enough evidence still. I will be voting either one of these 4 at the end of the day (unless some shocking revelation takes place).

 

[Abhas]

Varun was taken away into a separate room by Richard and Joeseph to be killed. Joeseph had a bad feeling about this, but Richard insisted, so Varun was killed off.

From the write-up, I still can't decipher whether Richard and Joeseph are the good people or the bad people.
Because I suspect someone to be Joeseph, but won't reveal the name incase he's the good person, and becomes the mafia target.
I need your help guys on this one.

And I'll reply to the other posts in a bit.. Going out right now.