Australia tour of India (Feb '17/Mar '17)

[zwarrior]

There might be racism involved but that is very unfair if Smith is gesturing and asking the dressing room if he is out. Smith should be fined as that is aganist the spirit of the game, and it is only you and your partner that can decide your fate (review or not).This is simply awful in the face of the game and Smoth needs to be fined.

Sadly, he isn't.

That issue is done and dusted now. Hopefully more focus will be on next game and it will be pretty intense for sure ! This issue has spiced up the series.

 

[Neo 7]

There might be racism involved but that is very unfair if Smith is gesturing and asking the dressing room if he is out. Smith should be fined as that is aganist the spirit of the game, and it is only you and your partner that can decide your fate (review or not).This is simply awful in the face of the game and Smoth needs to be fined.

You mean fined with money ?
LOL ! Then he would give happily .

 

[asprin]

You mean fined with money ?
LOL ! Then he would give happily .

The point isn't about money. It's about letting others know that such incidents won't be tolerated and can't be given a free pass. Unfortunately, it has in this case.

 

[CerealKiller]

On what basis you guys say Chris Broad is a racist? Let me guess any non-indian official dont agree with the Indian ways are racist.

He never penalises white players.
Like in this instance, Justin Langer clearly cheated, yet he wasn't even fined. You can guess who the match referee was.

 

[LittleBigPlanet]

Just my two cents on the whole 'Review Gate' incident -

Why do they even have a law that disallows the batsman from looking at dressing room for help? There is a law in place that forces the batsman to decide whether to go for DRS or not within a stipulated time. If that is in place, then whether the batsman looks at dressing room or not, does not matter because he has to say within the stipulated time whether he wants to review or not.

Second, yes dressing room have TV replays and that gives a better advantage. But lets get this straight - DRS was meant to get to the point where we eliminate bad decisions that led to controversies. Therefore if the dressing room can see the TV replays and indicate to the batsman that it is not out, then why can't the batsman use it? Ultimately the decision of the TV umpire who is adjudicating the decision is what will matter in the end. If the dressing room is wrong, the team loses the review. I see this very foolproof that I cant see why its so wrong for the batsman to look at dressing room. I agree that when the law is in place, you should not break it and so Smith is still guilty of breaking it. But I see a point where they can do away with this law of 'not looking at dressing room'

EXACTLY!!!! Couldn't agree more.

Why are people getting so worked up about it when its clear that it was a one off thing... a "brain fade". You only had to see smiths first reaction to the shaun marsh l.b.w, it was a complete and utter stinker that should have been reviewed, but ultimately it wasn't because smith wasn't sure about the line of the ball because of how wide he was standing from the popping crease, if it were a clear tactic to observe the dressing room for reviews then smith wouldn't have walked in line with the stumps to get a better view, would he? (I reckon every aussie watching was screaming to review it) Especially since the aussies had already burned one review on a very "controversial" l.b.w decision against warner, and we're obviously in a conscious state of mind not to waste another.

So therefore it's as simple as a "brain fade" in context of a very pressurized match situation, which is understandable because of the amount of concentration and effort that would have took to bat on that pitch, also never mind that the ball hit him just above the ankle in front of middle peg and looked as plumb, as f#cking plumb gets. Just imagine being peter handscombe when the captain of your country and arguably the best batsman in the world asked if what he just saw transpire, in probably smith's most earnest tone "whaddaya reckon mate?"... yeah we all would have probably said "don't ask me!" aswell.

 

[Rehan_24]

Just my two cents on the whole 'Review Gate' incident -

Why do they even have a law that disallows the batsman from looking at dressing room for help? There is a law in place that forces the batsman to decide whether to go for DRS or not within a stipulated time. If that is in place, then whether the batsman looks at dressing room or not, does not matter because he has to say within the stipulated time whether he wants to review or not.

Second, yes dressing room have TV replays and that gives a better advantage. But lets get this straight - DRS was meant to get to the point where we eliminate bad decisions that led to controversies. Therefore if the dressing room can see the TV replays and indicate to the batsman that it is not out, then why can't the batsman use it? Ultimately the decision of the TV umpire who is adjudicating the decision is what will matter in the end. If the dressing room is wrong, the team loses the review. I see this very foolproof that I cant see why its so wrong for the batsman to look at dressing room. I agree that when the law is in place, you should not break it and so Smith is still guilty of breaking it. But I see a point where they can do away with this law of 'not looking at dressing room'

I assume it would actually be that to decide about DRS within the stipulated time and by the on-field batsmen only (Not beyond that). Your view is interesting but somethings are the beauty of a Game and If you allow the dressing room to interfere in that by watching closely on TV or via replay within the stipulated time then this will damage the beauty as well as ignores the Umpire importance a bit more much which doesn't seem suitable. I believe that a minor human error adds value to the game. If the sole purpose is to improve the LBW process only then i guess in near future we would not require a human umpire. We can simply have an AI Robot watching each ball in slow motion, scanning things and give decision right away and then you can't argue with machine lol....

We should remember that we didn't have DRS before and it came through us in stages and still demands improvements. We didn't have this luxury before so such things help in improving the game within some constraints. You can't let them free otherwise the beauty of the game will hurt in my opinion. Like Virat said that we also need to improve our decision making abilities on ground when to call for review and when not.

So I see the whole thing as a total package, Instead of allowing the dressing room to intervene, The players need to be sharper on the field.

I also feel that the Umpire Call option has been inducted just to not snatch away every right from the On-Field umpire. To impose his expertise and authority as well.

 

[Rehan_24]

Just saw this for the first time, Thought to share. The purpose isn't to fuel any argument. Just a sharing for all of us

 

[ParkedTheBus]

Mitch Marsh getting injured is fantastic news for Australia, perhaps exactly what they needed to prevent an absolute embarrassment at this point. Not sure about Stoinis being his replacement though. Pretty sure that his knock against New Zealand played a part but picking players for tests based on ODIs is a bad idea. Henriques has had a much better season in general and should've been on the plane. He even has experience of playing in India. Anyway, Stoinis can't be worse than Marsh so that's a huge positive.

 

[asprin]

I reckon they might just take the risk with Maxwell. He and Ashwin have a history and Maxwell holds the advantage there. So it might not be a bad ploy at all.

 

[asprin]

Is this the first time that Smith has failed in both innings of a match against India? If I recall correctly, in every Test that he has played against India, he had either a 50 or 100 in either of the innings of a match.

 

[Fake Passport]

Your absolutely right in that most of the introduction of technology has been done so in such a way that the umpire still has to make a decision and then the validity of that decision is considered by technology. Most recently its been done with the introduction of the soft signal for things like carried catches. IMO while there is still a role for an umpire on the field, you want them making decisions, otherwise their accuracy and ability to make those decisions and get them right fades, and you end up with less accurate umpires and more reliance on technology. Better teaching some resilience skills for when they do, on the odd occasion, get it wrong than someone that has auto-referred things so much that they cant make a decision when the technology goes down, or are forced to etc.

Predominately the Umpires Call was originally included (and afaik still is) to account for the known consistent margin of error in the technology. With ball tracking, the cameras have a hard time picking up exactly where the ball bounces and how much it skids, usually this shows as the umpires call as to whether the ball hits the stumps. I believe the system also works on a theoretical pinpoint centre of the ball, and extrapolates what the ball, given the size would have done, which provides more of a limitation given the variances in ball sizes (given were talking mm) and perhaps even shape.

There probably is an argument that technology could take over decision making for umpires, save perhaps one in the box. However as we saw with Smith looking up at the dressing room, Faf du Plessis ball tampering, cooling tempers etc umpires are needed for a whole lot more than decision making (the common saying is knowledge of the laws is 10% of umpiring). I personally suspect that until technology can be made at backyard level (which is decades away) they'll have to substantially retain on field umpires, purely for the fact that the game would be so different between the pro and the amateur.

 

[Satan666]

It is clear that he cheated. He freaking looked at the dressing room and asked what to do. Look at the video. How can you not see that ? Anyone with clear mind is able to see that. Even Smith admitted to that and still no action against him ? Chris Broad is out of his mind.

Smith had a brain fade, it can happen on those tense situations, you want them to block off the dressing room? If its anything Virat Kohli should be reprimanded for public criticism of an international team and captain!

 

[Satan666]

He never penalises white players.
Like in this instance, Justin Langer clearly cheated, yet he wasn't even fined. You can guess who the match referee was.

This proves nothing and youre being silly using this as a basis for labeling a match referee as a racist! Langer was just being a bit childish, poking fun, no need to be uptight all the time, even the commentators in the video said nothing was 'evil' about his actions.

 

[CerealKiller]

This proves nothing and youre being silly using this as a basis for labeling a match referee as a racist! Langer was just being a bit childish, poking fun, no need to be uptight all the time, even the commentators in the video said nothing was 'evil' about his actions.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Smith had a brain fade, it can happen on those tense situations, you want them to block off the dressing room? If its anything Virat Kohli should be reprimanded for public criticism of an international team and captain!

This guy has me in splits!