India in West Indies, 2009

DME786; said:
One needs to understand where India have played their cricket during the last couple of months. In New Zealand they batted on flat tracks which didn't test there batsmen. When there is some help for the bowlers they have always struggled and same goes with Pakistan.

Then they must be happy Edwards is not playing!!!

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aussie1st; said:
The Indian batting really has fallen of late. Only a few months ago we were talking about it being the best India has ever produced. Now they are struggling to make 200.

None the less good performance by WI, Rampaul and Taylor really stood up along with Morton and Gayle.

Rampaul did not surprise me, Morton did, he is capable, but seems to have lost it in recent times, he was not my choice to play far less to open, he did great in both matches, I hope he keeps this up for the other 2 matches!!!
 
India lost their first match :hpraise C'mon India 2 more to go :banana2

Atleast make it 1-3 :D
 
haha, our bowlers are always crap! :laugh :rtfl That RP and Nehra proved to stay on the worthless side. Selectors have no brains and no eyes! :laugh

When we were loosing wickets after wickets I thought that the pitch was like that.. But it was proven otherway! Anyways good contribution from RP was his batting. Otherwise we would have been crushed in even more better way. :p
 
The stage was set for Jadeja to prove his critics wrong.He should have tried to stay in the crease for sometime and do what RP did along with Dhoni.He bottled it.
 
The stage was set for Jadeja to prove his critics wrong.He should have tried to stay in the crease for sometime and do what RP did along with Dhoni.He bottled it.

None of the batsmen bothered to do it and why aiming the arrow at Jadeja alone? None of the bowlers are doing it and why aiming at the batsmen alone? Its a team game where each and every member should be there to their best but I can't see it happening sooner. First match win was a luck & hence Windies deserve to get their second match in the dominating way.

If Dhoni and his men are still not learning from it, I don't know what to say! :(
 
I think Sharma and Jadeja should be made mainstays on this team, while Badrinath and Vijay should continue to be kept out.

I agree that Jadeja should be in the team. But Sharma, he is a utter crap batsman atm. He should be in team if we want India to loose.
 
@Suren:Im not pointing at him.If he had scored some 30-40 runs,he could have got the confidence that hes craving for.Hes a nudger more than a hitter.And I was expecting something from him when he scored a boundary.We cant expect these kind of innings from Yusuf(unless he adjusts his temperament tremendously) or Praveen Kumar.
 
Ya i agree Naresh. It was the best oppurtunity Jadeja would ever get. If he could have scored 30-40 runs, i am sure his critics would have praises him. But he wasn't able to convert good early start into solid innings.
 
@Suren:Im not pointing at him.If he had scored some 30-40 runs,he could have got the confidence that hes craving for.Hes a nudger more than a hitter.And I was expecting something from him when he scored a boundary.We cant expect these kind of innings from Yusuf(unless he adjusts his temperament tremendously) or Praveen Kumar.

I think you misinterpreted mine. :D It was continuous as quoted below. You missed the second part of my question. ;)

I said,

None of the batsmen bothered to do it and why aiming the arrow at Jadeja alone? None of the bowlers are doing it and why aiming at the batsmen alone?

I am blaming the entire team! Even Dhoni did not retain as much as strikes possible when those Jadejas and Pathans were getting out. Even when Praveen was there. Being a senior member cum captain, he should have shouldered the main responsibility. During those wickets sliding session, Dhoni faced only around 20 balls where others faced around 50 balls. :rolleyes: Thats not a good sign?

This is where Steve Waugh becomes the class. :cool: :hpraise
 
Well, I didn't watch the match because I was out all day but LOL, India got pwn3d.
 
The Indian batting really has fallen of late. Only a few months ago we were talking about it being the best India has ever produced. Now they are struggling to make 200.

None the less good performance by WI, Rampaul and Taylor really stood up along with Morton and Gayle.

Umm, maybe that has something to do with being without 2 of the greatest batsmen in the world (Tendulkar, Sehwag), and one very good batsman (Raina) ?

Just saying. ;)
 
India deserved to get wallopped. A couple of stupid selections like Jadeja (has talent, but not yet International class) and Nehra (had talent, and is past international class). Also, Gambhir being out of form did not help things.

Coming to Rohit Sharma, am afraid he is going the wrong way. We need him in tests and not ODIs. And he has hardly two games really in his entire ODI career to talk about. Better we gave him the boot and inducted in Badri.
 
My two cents on the debacle...

Immediately, one looks to scapegoat the team selection and are angry at the fact that India have been skittled over by a good (not great) side. However, we must note that we are missing four of our best ODI players in Tendulkar, Raina, Sehwag and Zaheer. Sehwag and Raina have both recently found great ODI form, for those who don't follow Indian cricket. We can't panic in the long term as we have these people to return, two of whom will be around for a long time to come. Moreover, we cannot complain too much about immediate results, we made a conscious decision with the dropping of Ganguly and Dravid to look toward youth and look toward 2011, we cannot turn back because of one bad result or a few bad performances.

However, the selection was misguided. Admittadly, I got caught up in the Dinesh Karthik as opener, experiment, but it is clearly not a viable long term option when we have Vijay sitting on the benches, who has opened for a great deal of his career, with great success. An issue is Ravindra Jadeja, his batting has shown itself solid, but he is, by no means, a specialist batsman and his performances in the IPL and in his three ODIs show that he is not a potent force at international level (or outside India, take your pick). Badrinath would be a far more effective pick or perhaps Nayar, if the extra bowling is desired.

On the topic of bowling, what a shambles of an attack. Nehra needs some wickets quick or should be discarded, and this three seamer strategy has little sense. Ojha and Harbhajan are quality bowlers and must play considering the lack of quality seamers. Speaking of seamers, I am not happy with any of the four in the squad, tbh, they all suck in ODIs in flat conditions but alas, there does not seem to be anyone knocking hard on the door and so this is mediocrity we must live with, for the time being.
 
Raina would have failed here anyway trying to hook the short ball.
 
Raina would have failed here anyway trying to hook the short ball.

You got to take into account that Raina's weakness against the short ball was exposed in the T20 world cup where he had no option but to go for big hits and fast scoring since it was a 20 over game. In a 50 over game, he has more time in his hands. He could avoid more of the short balls and he also might not need to go for too extravagant shots. So I would go by Raina's recent ODI form when talking about his 'short ball weakness'. His ODI form in recent times (as manee said) has been extraordinary. Same with Sehwag (he did brilliantly in NZ). But we got to live without these players (Sehwag might not come back even for the Champions trophy). We got to make the right selections and we can win the series without our mainstays
 

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