It's time for Ganguly to step down @#$^&*

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Ganguly was once a tiger.

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But now he's a cat.
Many good players like Ramesh dissapeared under his captaincy.
Ganguly was a better batsman under Azaharuddin's captaincy that his own captaincy.
I want to see a better batsman.
 
I was wondering were is ramesh he batted so well in the world cup 99 his average was around 40% where is he now?
 
thank god the indian selectors don't follow this thread...utter rubbish been thrown in here...the thing is and it may be hard to gulp down that India have never ever performed as well as they have under the captaincy of Ganguly...u may think he is doing whatsoever in that pic, he may be saving heavily on his manicure bills but still the fact is that he is the best captain India have had...India were placed second after the WC...India are going to be second soon in tests(if England continue what they are upto) and the biggest thing is that until Kaif gets two three more years in the side there's no one to don the mantle...ask dravid and perhaps he would be the first one to chuck it out...laxman - i would give a thousand bucks to watch his beautiful innings again and again but captain no way...sachin we all know - he doesn't like it one little bit...sehwag would make every one drink milk and bat like him...yuvi's got too much turbulence up there...and i think parthiv's 60 in Rawalpindi was much better than ratra's 100 which i would like to put in here was not at all a pressure situation compared to rawalpindi and lahore and bangalore and chennai...he was an awful keeper but if only he starts thinking he can bat decently india's opening problem is almost solved...thanks to the persistence of an awful skipper...whatever people here in the forums keep on writing the fact is that Ganguly's not going to be changed soon...so just enjoy the cricket guyz and leave the selection to More...
 
sachinisgod said:
whatever people here in the forums keep on writing the fact is that Ganguly's not going to be changed soon
Only because there's no other options whatsoever
 
Not only there is no other option but there is no one to step up such as rahul dravid He has done a better job then ganguly.I remember when west indie's toured india and rahul dravid was captaining the side and he was not bad at all infact he was brillinat with his field positioning and etc.When rahul dravid was captaining murli karthik was in a great form unlike he is now under the captaincy of ganguly and that suggest's one thing to me that player's are more ken as under pressure when ganguly is captaining the side.when ever a indian player stand up againts him he gets fired that is ridiclouse.
 
sachinisgod said:
thank god the indian selectors don't follow this thread...utter rubbish been thrown in here...the thing is and it may be hard to gulp down that India have never ever performed as well as they have under the captaincy of Ganguly...u may think he is doing whatsoever in that pic, he may be saving heavily on his manicure bills but still the fact is that he is the best captain India have had...India were placed second after the WC...India are going to be second soon in tests(if England continue what they are upto) and the biggest thing is that until Kaif gets two three more years in the side there's no one to don the mantle...ask dravid and perhaps he would be the first one to chuck it out...laxman - i would give a thousand bucks to watch his beautiful innings again and again but captain no way...sachin we all know - he doesn't like it one little bit...sehwag would make every one drink milk and bat like him...yuvi's got too much turbulence up there...and i think parthiv's 60 in Rawalpindi was much better than ratra's 100 which i would like to put in here was not at all a pressure situation compared to rawalpindi and lahore and bangalore and chennai...he was an awful keeper but if only he starts thinking he can bat decently india's opening problem is almost solved...thanks to the persistence of an awful skipper...whatever people here in the forums keep on writing the fact is that Ganguly's not going to be changed soon...so just enjoy the cricket guyz and leave the selection to More...

Defeats are nothing to you, it seems. India were placed FIFTH in ODIs after World Cup. If India go on to win the home series against Pakistan(which can only happen due to individual efforts), Sourav will take all credit and will obviously secure his place in team.
But even if we lose, he's gonna stay. :mad

Its like people just have blind faith in Sourav.

Mongia said after his retirement -
If you've friends like More you don't need enemies,...

Just to tell you what a @#$^&* More is.

And many Indian supporters, don't really support India, they support Sourav.

Actually, its all because we are talking about India, where politicians, beauracrats, officials, policemen, common men,... are all corrupt so why not selectors and captain.
 
fardin said:
Not only there is no other option but there is no one to step up such as rahul dravid He has done a better job then ganguly.I remember when west indie's toured india and rahul dravid was captaining the side and he was not bad at all infact he was brillinat with his field positioning and etc.When rahul dravid was captaining murli karthik was in a great form unlike he is now under the captaincy of ganguly and that suggest's one thing to me that player's are more ken as under pressure when ganguly is captaining the side.when ever a indian player stand up againts him he gets fired that is ridiclouse.


When you have two world class spinners in Harbhajan and Kumble, why would you go with the third best spinner, Murali Karthik? And whenever Dravid captained, it so happened that one of Bhajji or Kumble were not playing! Why do you put it on Ganguly? I dont think Ganguly really has an aversion on M.Kartik. M.Kartik is not a great bowler. He did well only on those dust bowls and that one ODI series against Australia in India. Everyone who wants to take a dig at Ganguly immediately takes the issue of M.Kartik.

Ajit said:
Defeats are nothing to you, it seems. India were placed FIFTH in ODIs after World Cup. If India go on to win the home series against Pakistan(which can only happen due to individual efforts), Sourav will take all credit and will obviously secure his place in team.
But even if we lose, he's gonna stay. :ma
Its like people just have blind faith in Sourav
Mongia said after his retirement -
If you've friends like More you don't need enemies,..
Just to tell you what a @#$^&* More is
And many Indian supporters, don't really support India, they support Sourav
Actually, its all because we are talking about India, where politicians, beauracrats, officials, policemen, common men,... are all corrupt so why not selectors and captain.

Do you follow the ICC rating system?? It sucks one little bit..India were in the 6th spot or so before the World Cup and after winning so many matches in the World Cup (except for 2 matches against Australia) were placed at 5th. Does that look and sound fair?

Who knows what Mongia did? There were lot of reports too where players said Mongia is not a good team man, etc etc. So instead of pointing finger on some one else, we shoud first look into whom we are taking side on! And what the @%#* More has to do in here when the topic is on GANGULY?

Saurav is not such a big guy in India that everyone instead of supporting the team supports him. He has also had backlashes from the Indian public when India lost to Australia in the preliminary stages of the World Cup.

Ur last statement sucks. Just becoz some people in India are corrupt, does it mean everyone has to be the same way?? Gimme a break Ajit... Give me one proof that the selectors and the captain are corrupt and I would accept it without one more argument..
 
defeats just mean less to me than victories...and thats why I value the number of victories under Ganguly more than the no of defeats under him which i am sure are lesser than the victories...and yeah perhaps u r right abt India's place after the WC in ICC ratings...a thought had passed in my mind then abt the dubiousness of them...and options or no options as of now we have a captain who doesn't mind saying his mind out...who doesn't mumble "boys this and boys that"...who is not a heavenly performer himself and hence doesn't create undue pressure on his team...who is not a mere pawn of the board...who is not more conscious of his own batting records than his team's performances...if you are well versed in indian cricket which most of you seem to be you'll be able to ascribe the names of the captains to the above descriptions...

the moment the team performs well we rush to give credit to the individual performers and statistically we point out that its one more victory for the captain...when we lose the captain's the first scapegoat(which he has thwarted somehow - thankfully)...More may be the biggest fool on earth for that matter but whatever you shout or do even he is sensible enough to retain the best man for the job...

and Ganguly corrupt...a bit of a megalomaniac - yes but corrupt no way...i know u were hallucinating when u wrote that...my point is simply this - keep looking at someone's good points till the bad ones cross a certain limit and as of now for me his good ones outweigh the baddies...it was Kapil Dev's intuition and belief that saw through a brilliant team of underachievers to the ultimate WC glory...as of now it has been Ganguly's intuition and dedication to his players that has seen the team gel so well and that has led to rise of stars like - Sehwag(all know this one - pushed in test team by Ganguly and scores a century on debut, pushed to open and responds with a century), Bhajji(almost or perhaps dropped out from NCA - thank god he did), Yuvi - second chance against Zim in 2002 and we know what happened in June later that year, Kaif - (skipper adamant on playin 7 batters and we have a cool cucumber finisher in the side), Srinath - left cricket came back on pleas by Ganguly and Indian bowling reaped the benefits in WC2003... and biggest of all no personal competition between the skipper and his fellow mates - just complete solidarity...that for me is enough to allow Ganguly retain the spot...

his batting has fallen below his own standards but we all know that if a teenager discarded at 19 can come back at 23 and score 2 successive test centuries in the home of cricket then he can jump back into form very soon...just crossing the fingers that he does...and even if his batting doesn't improve drastically he is still eligible for being the skipper plainly on the merits of his aggro and brains...the fields he set for the aussies in Chennai were simply great...and if in England a guy can get Man of The Match award for captaincy then sure this man can lead India for a few more years...
 
can we end this useless discussion

those who like saurav r gonna like him
those who hate him r gonna hate him
nothing would change their opinion
and we r not Indian selectors either
so I see no point in arguing



by the way I found very similar topic on net where ppl have discussed a lot regarding this might wanna check it out
 
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littlegenius90 said:
can we end this useless discussion

those who like saurav r gonna like him
those who hate him r gonna hate him
nothing would change their opinion
and we r not Indian selectors either
so I see no point in arguing
I agree.
I won't be able to watch Indian Cricket with the same eyes any more...........
 
Well Zorax, u got it right there mate. Everyone will have his own opinion on this issue, and Ganguly has always got the stick from the Indian fans. One thing is for certain though, India is a better and a much stronger side under Ganguly.
 
m_vaughan said:
This is the biggest bundle of crap Ive ever seen!


Sorry sir, I cant understand what you meant by this message. Becoz your last message seems to support Ganguly. Before reading ur last message, I thought you were contradicting 'sachinisgod'z message which was really true but now, after ur last message, i dont understand the meaning of the message aboe in quotes.

littlegenius90 said:
can we end this useless discussion

those who like saurav r gonna like him
those who hate him r gonna hate him
nothing would change their opinion
and we r not Indian selectors either
so I see no point in arguing

Sad but true that he has more haters than likers.. Yes, i would say we can end this topic!
 
ZoraxDoom said:
I agree.
I won't be able to watch Indian Cricket with the same eyes any more...........

true and i agree with you zorax.The indian captain is becomeing a joke :(
 
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