It's time for Ganguly to step down @#$^&*

[littlegenius90]

I think saurav is one of those person who people "love to hate"
and no matter what u do
i.e. bring stats, bring facts, etc.
they would still ignore it

 

[Ajit]

How the hell can you say that likes of Dravid, Laxman, Kumble, etc. are worse than Ganguly, when they've not been given as many chances anyway?

Dravid has a lot of understanding and that's why he never says that he would like to be a captain. He knows, it wouldn't be good for the team. You should consider the aspects of captaincy and you'll find Dravid beats Ganguly in any respect.
Be that understanding, desire for win, commitment, effort, hard work, patriotism, professionalism, decision making, field settings, bowling changes, and obviously being a better player. Except for a few knocks like Headingley, Brisbane, etc. Ganguly has never been a great player at all. But Dravid has been one who's been putting 100% effort whenever he enters the field.

Only totally IGNORANT people can say that India are stronger under Ganguly. A few guys are just like they NEVER WANT THE INDIA TO HAVE A CHANGE IN CAPTAINCY. OR THEY ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO SCARED THAT THE WORLD WILL COME TO AN END AS SOON AS GANGULY'S GONE.

AND IF GANGULY IS REALLY ALL THAT GREAT THEN, ...

WHY THE HELL DOES HE BAT EXCESSIVELY DEFENSIVELY EVEN WHEN HE CAN PLAY SPINNERS, ETC. VERY WELL? HE GOT 55 FROM 80 BALLS IN THE RECENT ODI AGAINST BANGLADESH, WHEN INDIA MADE 348. WHY, WHEN MOST OF THE BOWLERS HE FACED WERE WELL SUITED TO HIM?

WHY IRFAN PATHAN DOES NOT DESERVE MORE FIELDERS ON THE LEG SIDE, WHEN HE BRINGS THE BALL BACK TO THE RIGHT HANDER? I REMEMBER THE CASE WITH WASIM AKRAM WASN'T SAME. HE ENDS UP GIVING RUNS AT 5+ AN OVER, DESPITE PICKING WICKETS

EXACTLY WHY WAS SACHIN TENDULKAR FORCED TO PLAY AT NUMBER 4, FOR SO MANY ODIs?

WHY THE HELL MR. SOURAV GANGULY HAVE TO SAY THAT "YUVI WILL PLAY" ON THE EVE OF LAHORE TEST, AND DISTORT A WELL SETTLED OPENING COMBINATION?

WHY WAS YUVI MADE TO OPEN? THAT ONLY HAD HIM THROWN OUT OF THE TEST TEAM?

WHY DOES YUVI NOT PLAY ONLY AT NO.6, HE WAS TOTAL FAILURE AT NO.3 IN BANGLADESH?

WHY DOES INDIA FAIL TO DEFEND HUGE TOTALS, AND ALSO FAIL TO CHASE LOW TOTALS IN ODIs?

HOW MUCH IS THE DEGREE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MR.SC GANGULY WHEN HE DOESN'T MIND DOING WHAT HE WAS DOING IN THE PIC ON PAGE 2?

WHY DOES PARTHIV PATEL DESERVES TO BE IN THE TEAM FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER?

WHEN STEVE WAUGH COULD BE THROWN OUT FROM AUSTRALIAN TEAM, WHAT THE HELL HAS SOURAV ACHIEVED?

AFTER TUGGA, PUNTER ONLY HAD A BETTER RECORD. AFTER HUSSAIN, VAUGHAN ONLY PROVED HIMSELF BETTER. AFTER AZHAR, SOURAV WAS ONLY BETTER(I CONSIDER AZHAR WORST OF ALL TIMES). SO WHY EXACTLY WE DON'T THINK PAST SOURAV?

THIS TOPIC HURTS SOME PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DIGEST TRUTHS AND LET ME TELL YOU SOURAV GANGULY HAS NEVER MADE INDIA WIN ON THE BASIS OF HIS CAPTAINCY.

OR YOU SIMPLY AGREE THAT INDIA IS AN EXTREMELY WEAK TEAM(READ MY FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD) DESPITE HAVING SRT,RSD,VVS,...?

AND I REPEAT YET AGAIN

I WOULD NEVER LIKE INDIA TO BE CAPTAINED BY A GREAT CAPTAIN AND STILL NOT WIN,...

I do agree this topic has no meaning whatsoever, as none could ever convince me that Sourav's good in any respect. Niether I could convince souravisgod, etc.

 

[gold639]

HOW MUCH IS THE DEGREE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MR.SC GANGULY WHEN HE DOESN'T MIND DOING WHAT HE WAS DOING IN THE PIC ON PAGE 2?




souravisgod, etc.

Lol mate you cracked me up with those 2 comments :cheer :rtfl


:drinks

 

[brad352]

I skipped everything after "Ganguly has never been a great player at all. But Dravid has been one who's been putting 100% effort whenever he enters the field."

Lose the caps

 

[sachinisgod]

wish he was in that 2000 kinda batting form then for a moment i would like to change my id to sauravisgod...but permanent Gods are different from mortals and to me Saurav is one of the better mortals in the Indian team...and you go on typing ridiculously long posts for no reason...he may win 10 world cups for u and still u may keep writing them...if you've got jaundice you'll see yellow everywhere...all i am trying to say is that Saurav is the best captain as of now and until someone as sensible as you can find out his replacement and convey it to Mahindra and More company it will remain so...i suppose you think that everyone's opinion is malleable except yours and hence you can bend them...but unfortunately my opinion on this issue is harder than diamond...

yeah we are not the selectors here but we can surely put forward what we think of our captain...I think he is fine enough...if someone else thinks otherwise I am not going to make him change his views...probably Saurav would - soon...

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Hey, new idea- India's FUTURE captain- after Saurov. I am starting a poll now.........

 

[sohum]

As I said in the other thread, since none of us has played for the Indian cricket team, we do not actually know the leadership qualities of any player in the team. Some people may seem like good captains on-field but how do we know that the players are actually inspired by them? Thus we work with numbers. And Ganguram has been India's best in terms of wins or whatever. He also seems to inspire confidence on the field most of the time.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Ganguram? Don't u mean Ganguly?

 

[bharat]

I was wondering were is ramesh he batted so well in the world cup 99 his average was around 40% where is he now?

Yes,he also has 40+ avg in test matches.During India's tour of Australia he was picked in the squard.His scores were somthing like 55,80,etc in the practice matches against Victoria,Queensland.

Wheras,Akash Chopa scored somthing like 14,20,in practice matches and he was picked in the final 11 which played Australia.
This is a pure example of Ganguly's lunatic ideas.
Now Ramesh is doomed.He has crossed his thirties.He is 30+.It's no use for him to return to the national team at this age.
He had once mentioned that he was depressed by his treatment.He became so depressed that he did not perform well this Ranji season & was rested(dropped) from Tamil Nadu team....sad...realy sad. :crying

 

[SaiSrini]

Yes,he also has 40+ avg in test matches.During India's tour of Australia he was picked in the squard.His scores were somthing like 55,80,etc in the practice matches against Victoria,Queensland.

Wheras,Akash Chopa scored somthing like 14,20,in practice matches and he was picked in the final 11 which played Australia.
This is a pure example of Ganguly's lunatic ideas.
Now Ramesh is doomed.He has crossed his thirties.He is 30+.It's no use for him to return to the national team at this age.
He had once mentioned that he was depressed by his treatment.He became so depressed that he did not perform well this Ranji season & was rested(dropped) from Tamil Nadu team....sad...realy sad. :crying

I agree.. Ramesh was treated very badly. I have felt a lot for him as I really liked him when he played for India. But why put the blame on the captain totally?? When we select a person as a captain, we should give him the right to take decisions based on his instinct. Just becoz we love this game doesnt make us say anything abt the decisions that the cricketers make!

How the hell can you say that likes of Dravid, Laxman, Kumble, etc. are worse than Ganguly, when they've not been given as many chances anyway?

Dravid has a lot of understanding and that's why he never says that he would like to be a captain. He knows, it wouldn't be good for the team. You should consider the aspects of captaincy and you'll find Dravid beats Ganguly in any respect.
Be that understanding, desire for win, commitment, effort, hard work, patriotism, professionalism, decision making, field settings, bowling changes, and obviously being a better player. Except for a few knocks like Headingley, Brisbane, etc. Ganguly has never been a great player at all. But Dravid has been one who's been putting 100% effort whenever he enters the field.

Only totally IGNORANT people can say that India are stronger under Ganguly. A few guys are just like they NEVER WANT THE INDIA TO HAVE A CHANGE IN CAPTAINCY. OR THEY ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO SCARED THAT THE WORLD WILL COME TO AN END AS SOON AS GANGULY'S GONE.

AND IF GANGULY IS REALLY ALL THAT GREAT THEN, ...

WHY THE HELL DOES HE BAT EXCESSIVELY DEFENSIVELY EVEN WHEN HE CAN PLAY SPINNERS, ETC. VERY WELL? HE GOT 55 FROM 80 BALLS IN THE RECENT ODI AGAINST BANGLADESH, WHEN INDIA MADE 348. WHY, WHEN MOST OF THE BOWLERS HE FACED WERE WELL SUITED TO HIM?

WHY IRFAN PATHAN DOES NOT DESERVE MORE FIELDERS ON THE LEG SIDE, WHEN HE BRINGS THE BALL BACK TO THE RIGHT HANDER? I REMEMBER THE CASE WITH WASIM AKRAM WASN'T SAME. HE ENDS UP GIVING RUNS AT 5+ AN OVER, DESPITE PICKING WICKETS

EXACTLY WHY WAS SACHIN TENDULKAR FORCED TO PLAY AT NUMBER 4, FOR SO MANY ODIs?

WHY THE HELL MR. SOURAV GANGULY HAVE TO SAY THAT "YUVI WILL PLAY" ON THE EVE OF LAHORE TEST, AND DISTORT A WELL SETTLED OPENING COMBINATION?

WHY WAS YUVI MADE TO OPEN? THAT ONLY HAD HIM THROWN OUT OF THE TEST TEAM?

WHY DOES YUVI NOT PLAY ONLY AT NO.6, HE WAS TOTAL FAILURE AT NO.3 IN BANGLADESH?

WHY DOES INDIA FAIL TO DEFEND HUGE TOTALS, AND ALSO FAIL TO CHASE LOW TOTALS IN ODIs?

HOW MUCH IS THE DEGREE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MR.SC GANGULY WHEN HE DOESN'T MIND DOING WHAT HE WAS DOING IN THE PIC ON PAGE 2?

WHY DOES PARTHIV PATEL DESERVES TO BE IN THE TEAM FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER?

WHEN STEVE WAUGH COULD BE THROWN OUT FROM AUSTRALIAN TEAM, WHAT THE HELL HAS SOURAV ACHIEVED?

AFTER TUGGA, PUNTER ONLY HAD A BETTER RECORD. AFTER HUSSAIN, VAUGHAN ONLY PROVED HIMSELF BETTER. AFTER AZHAR, SOURAV WAS ONLY BETTER(I CONSIDER AZHAR WORST OF ALL TIMES). SO WHY EXACTLY WE DON'T THINK PAST SOURAV?

THIS TOPIC HURTS SOME PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DIGEST TRUTHS AND LET ME TELL YOU SOURAV GANGULY HAS NEVER MADE INDIA WIN ON THE BASIS OF HIS CAPTAINCY.

OR YOU SIMPLY AGREE THAT INDIA IS AN EXTREMELY WEAK TEAM(READ MY FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD) DESPITE HAVING SRT,RSD,VVS,...?

AND I REPEAT YET AGAIN

I WOULD NEVER LIKE INDIA TO BE CAPTAINED BY A GREAT CAPTAIN AND STILL NOT WIN,...

I do agree this topic has no meaning whatsoever, as none could ever convince me that Sourav's good in any respect. Niether I could convince souravisgod, etc.

Oh my gosh!! Such a long post?? Anywayz, regarding Sachin's batting position, Sachin has to play wherever the team needs him to play!! Had it been some other captain, he would never have had the guts to move Sachin around in the batting order based on Sachin's popularity and his experience in the game!!

And regarding chasing huge totals, I think we have been chasing more bigger totals successfully than we were chasing under Azharrudin, Tendulkar or any previous captain of India! You can expect to chase down every other total that is above 300. It depends on the match conditions, team composition, mental state of the players, etc.

You can keep on bringing up silly reasons to support your argument that Ganguly is a worse captain, but we always stand by the words that India has certainly progressed well under him and are on the track to challenge any other world class team (Stats also back this up). And ganguly still has some years left in him to captain the team and I am confident he would take INDIA places!! I would never have the same confidence in the team that I have now if some one other than Saurav is the captain!

 

[littlegenius90]

ahhhhh this is enough!!!

disclaimer : only for those who can read and UNDERSTAND !!!




yes I do agree that his performances has just been moderate lately...
giving away his opening spot triggered his downfall as a batsman
his 19 centuries out of his 22 came as opener
belive it or not but he is the closest to sachin as far as centuries r concerned

Its not just ganguly it would happened to sachin too and its gonna happen to each and ever Indina captain to come next...u know y....casue our expectations are too high

When we reached world cup finals everthing seemed to be going well
No one ever said 'oh we need a new captain'
But after pakistan series our team is going through a lean patch
but becasuse of our too high ecpectations we make a big deal out of nothing

As soon as we lose people start questioning abilities of our captain and coach
y do they forget so easily that this r the same people who almost won us the world cup, where were their abilities back then?

It is very easy to forget that the outcome of a game is because of all 11 individuals not just one

between we have won 70 matches under his captainship and he has scored at an avg of 55.15 in our winning causes

Ganguly is the first captain which gave Indian side an agressive on your face look...do not forget.. this has changed the face of Indian cricket for ever...

Talking about his performance and bold decisions here are few:

Shewag won't be as destructive if Ganguly had not asked him to open in a one dayer against NZ in Sl..he had other choices as well......

Tendulkar would have struggled in one dayers if Gangs had not given up the opening slot to him.....

Gangs made Yuvi and Kaif feel secure about their places in the playing 11 even when they were not so cinsistent and players like Laxman, Badani and Mongia were doing well in domestic cricket...

The decision he took in asking Dravid to keep wickets worked like a dream for Indian oneday side.....he realised we don't have good bowling to restrict the opposition and took the approach to out-score any team by playing 7 batsmen..and they did that successfully by chasing 300+ scores on few occasion and posting 300+ score regularly...

He backs his players like no other captain.....ask them and you get the same reply from Laxman, Yuvi, Kaif and Bhaji.....

Scoring runs as a captain is not everything, handling the team and earn respect from opposition and your team-mates is the job of a leader....ask Ranatunga and he will explain what does it mean and why he feels Gangs is the best Indian captain ever....

There are many more qualities which makes Gangs superior to others in the current team.....please do some reserach yourself.....

sachin had same problems when he was captaining the side...sachin is so soft spoken that he wasnt able to fight for the players he liked or even get the team he liked...Dravid would be no difference, selectors would rule and judge our team and captain would be nothing more then just a rubber stamp....
(why do u want to make dravid suffer)

thats where u need someone like ganguly who can bully around and fight for his players like sehwag, harbhajan, yuvi, kaif, etc. even in their bad times against all adversities he backed his players and now when our big guns retires we wont be total handicap, we would still able to shine all thanks to gangully again...I highly doubt dravid would be even come close to anything like that, he is so cool that he would accept whatever he gets...
dude cricket is not gentlemens game anymore
just look at all the mean players out there in this world...
we need a captain who can deal with daemons in eyes...and thanks to his personal abilities he brought that ruthless agression into our team...
gangully is even great at playing this mind games, on and off the field...
we need a captain who is agressive like Ricky pointing not cool like Inzi...
and as far as his recent score is concerned he hasnt dont too bad either...
8 decent scores (40+ runs) from his last 20 innings, thats not bad at all....

moreover almost all of those scores where scored in reasonably tight situations and that also against better opponents too like 4 of them against pak, 1 against SL, 1 against Eng and that also when he is not at his best...
every player have his highs and lows and he is no different....
and as I said earlier he had lot of success as a opener and when he comes down as no.3 or at no.4 when laxman plays it makes a big difference....

and for those who complain about not scoring fast
ever heard of team, game plan, strategy, etc.
its not that all guys should go out and start smashing right away
ever wonder y sachin do go out and smash as he use to do few years ago
if u r observant enough then u would have realised it
that everyone have there own role in a team
if u look at few recent matches u would realise that after loosing couple of wickets saurav and rahul simply try to occupy the crease
like in last one day against bangladesh and ICC XI do u think yuvi would have been able to smash those quick runs if either saurav or rahul would have lost their wicket...dude smashing is not everything u dont want 11 sehwag in team do u?

and to add fuel to the fire
FEW DUMB PEOPLE SELECTED HIM TO LEAD ASIA XI
right???

forget Indians even outsiders also think that he is a great captain...
seriously doing some research by yourself wont hurt before make baseless comments

 

[SaiSrini]

Another long post but a good and meaningful post!!

 

[ZoraxDoom]

Couldn't put it better myself littlegenius!!!!!!

 

[fardin]

What the hell is going on.Why is every one writing too much in here.Ajit you should make a book about how ganguly is rather then posting it in here.Little geniuse please dont write too much.<:

 

[shahid6995]

Ganguly is to Indian cricket team as Imran was to Pakistan. He has done good for the team itself, and brought a lot of confidence to the team and made tigers out of pathetic pussies. For that you have to give him credit. But still as a person, Ganguly is a spoiled asshole who thinks everyone is beneath him in stature. And for that reason, I dont like him.