Most overrated cricketer on the planet...

squiz said:
irfan is no way near the class of akram and never will be
well he clearly lacks the pace and the intelligence of Wasim who was one heck of a bowler. But if he does become even half as successful as Akram, then India will surely win more matches in the future.

But "Ifs" dont really count, do they??
 
Ashish_Nehra said:
Agarkar was once considered as next Kapil Dev, what he become, a dropped player.
a lost dev..... :(

irfan dropped from 5 of 6 recent odis, terribly poor bowling in test series, what's next?
You probabily havent been watching closely. Agarkar was never going to be a top bowler. He had this outswing, but never knew what line and length was.

Pathan is clearly one of the most talented young cricketers around. How many bowlers actually swing the ball these days?? He does, more than most. fine hes going through a rough spell. But hes a bloody kid. Hes got loads of time. Things like slower balls and variations in pace come with time. There a reason why pathan was making top batsman look like ametures when he was on form(youhana and co.) Because swing is a lost art. Hes alot better than people like sami and all, who just have pace.
 
If Sachin was Aussie, he would be the next Bradman. Why? Simple-every tinme he scores a 100 or so, India win. India have lost a lot quite recently, so it makes sense that Sachin hasn't done much of note, so that leads people to think that he isn't that good, and is overrated.
Now if he was Aussie, he would be considered the greatest. Why? For one, the Aussies always win, so that means the whole team is excellent and great, etc. etc. He would also be praised for retaining a place in the Aussie team because of the selection policies whereas it is poor in India. He would also have less pressure, so would be more attacking and more fun to watch, meaning more people will like him. If Gilly went defensive, would people keep thinking he was great?

Agarkar is good. Not great, no prodigy, just a lucky charm and good.
Ashish_Nehra said:
it sucks because people are putting their hated player as overrated, makes little sense
True. Very true. Afridi isn't overrated. He can't even be rated. Saying he is Pakistans future-thats overrating. Saying he is good and fun to watch-thats proper rating.

Now about Warne. He is in the same league of Murali and Kumble-the top 3 spinners frm the 1990s till now. Why? Because he never had to bowl against Clarke, Ponting, Gilly, the Waugh brothers, Border, etc. But the fact that he revived leg spin gives him a bonus, so these three are equal. For me atleast.

No player can be overated. Simply becuse we aren't in their shoes. Vettori bowls way to many overs, hance doesn't have good figures. Sami has had many catches dropped(loads!) which really ruin his figures. Akhtar was good in tests, but horrible attitude. Pathan had a lucky start, like Agarkar, picking up wickets as an unkown force. Lets see what he does now.

Thats all for now.
 
People keep going on about Muralis action but there's nothign wrong with it.

He's double jointed meaning his joints go both ways. You try and push your middle finger to the front of your wrist.

Plus with a spinner it doesn't make alot of difference, he doesn't bowl execptionally fast for a spinner the only reason he spind it alot is due to his double joints. The action thing would be more cheating if a fast bowler did it. As they could get more purchase out of it.
 
Maybe both Clarke and Pathan live upto hype, maybe only Pathan, maybe only Clarke, and maybe none.
the person who doesn't want clarke to do all that will call him overrated
and same about irfan.
that's why 'overrated' has no meaning its like "my hated"
 
I guess, from some of these posts, that Wasim Akram was just born with the speed and intelligence that made him such a great bowler. From game 1, he was good to go.
 
Ashish_Nehra said:
Maybe both Clarke and Pathan live upto hype, maybe only Pathan, maybe only Clarke, and maybe none.
the person who doesn't want clarke to do all that will call him overrated
and same about irfan.
that's why 'overrated' has no meaning its like "my hated"
Well I think Clarke is a little bit over-rated. He's averaging not even over 40 in First Class, and it's like he's the best thing since sliced bread. He's a fine One Day Player, but isn't the best Test batsman. I don't hate Clarke either
 
I think that people need to start thinking like cricket analysts rather than jus put the name of the player that you hate the most and say that he is over rated. I think we are better off looking at a topic of the most Underrated cricketer on the planet.

If people are picking Sachin as most over rated then why not pick Ponting?

He played like crap against Bangladesh of all teams and now he has failed to score in double figures in the first innings. His average in the Natwest Tr Series was below 25 with a strike rate of under 65!!!

There are only 2 reasons I think why people say Sachin is over rated rite now.
1. They hate Sachin because he was the indian team for most of the 90s

2. Sachin is no longer a match winner. People like Sehwag, Dhoni and Dravid have taken over.

So everyone just think about other cricketers in your own teams before you talk about Sachin. Everytime ive looked at a series that India plays, they dont really go on for hours about how Sachin didnt perform. They look at others like Sehwag and Dravid.

Sachin is not performing as well with the bat as he used to. But did people all of a sudden forget that he was the #1 batsman at the 2003 CWC? Oh yea. All of you probably did because he scored only 4 in the final and lucky india, they played the un
beatable aussies in the final!!

And you also need to factor in all the injuries Sachin has had for the past 2 yrs. Maybe that could be affecting his performance. Nobody knows that for sure.
 
I think Vaas is def one of the most underrated. People always seem to go on about Mcgrath, Pollock, Gillespie and Co. but really jus think about the no. of wickets that Vaas has got in the sub continent where conditions for pace bowling are seemingly non existent. He's spent all fo his career in the shadow of Murali. He was appreciated by being included in both the ICC ODI and Test world 11 last year the the awards but has been dropped from the super series squad. In his last test before the West indies against NZ he took a 6 wicket. He might not be suitable for the test world 11 maybe coz he lacks pace but he should've defntely been included in the ODI squad in my opinion especially since he's very economical and good at the end of the innigs
 
MARTIN BICKNELL is the most underatted bowler I have ever, and will come across probably in my life. How he has only played about four Test matches I don't know but I can tell you ot that he should have been in the England team during the mid 90's and for a few years after the turn in the century. He take ridiculous amounts of wickets in the county circuit and has not ben given a chance for England. He reminds me of Glenn McGrath, tall, imaculate line and length, gets movement both ways of swing and cut and bowls at a reasonable pace.
Moreover, MR ADAM HOLLIOAKE was also very underated. All I have to say about this top cricketer is that he is a DON. Look at the way he plays and you wonder how the f*!ck he barely played for England. He was brought into the England one day side and started off well. Then he had a few indifferent performances and has vanished off the International scene ever since.
GRAHAM THORPE. Look at what he has done over his career and you will realise. In 2002 he scored the fastest double hundred ever recorded, until Nathan "dick'ead" Astle came along and slogged a faster double hundred. Thorpe had a tragic break up with his wife only a few years ago and it stopped him from playing cricket for nearly a whole year. As anyone could imagine during this period cricket was probably the last thing on his mind. But somehow he came back with a beautiful century in 2003 against South Africa to help England trash the touring side in a rather dissapointing series for England. Thorpe showed England just what they were missing with his touch of pure class, his ability to keep the scoreboard ticking over without smashing boundaries and his strong gritty mentality. Just what England needed at the time, and just what they still do need against Australia.
 
I can't beleive how OVER-RATED Dhoni is! One matchwining inning??( That I have seen so far) He is not better then Akmal who is not better than Sangakara. He isn't a matchwinner..
 
Pak_cricketer said:
I can't beleive how OVER-RATED Dhoni is! One matchwining inning??( That I have seen so far) He is not better then Akmal who is not better than Sangakara. He isn't a matchwinner..

He(Dhoni) has just played 9 ODIs . A knock of 148 in your fifth match is not bad , is it ? He also followed it up with scores of 28,48,24 . How can you draw a conslusion so early on in a player`s career of how good or bad a player is . I agree that Akmal is an emerging talent as well but hes been naround for sometime now . Give Dhoni the time and see what he can do . If you would have seen him score those 148 runs of 123 balls, you will not be speaking like this . Learn to give a talented cricketer his due .
 

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