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[aadhavzone]

Mega Fail !!!​

PS3 games have never been pirated so I wonder where you saw those pirated games ?

Do you know that no version of any Cricket game has ever been pirated for the Xbox 360 in India to be sold in shops. The explanation for this is rather long and is best not told. (Lets say the Codies outwitted the Grey market goons who run the piracy racket in India by keeping their game Region locked to PAL)

Coming to Codies releasing the game on a Blue Ray for PC , do you understand that you will need a 300$ (Rs 12000) Blue Ray drive attached to your PC to play this game ? You cannot play Blue Ray discs in your Laptops DVD Drive :doh . I guess you are better off purchasing a gaming console instead of a Blue Ray Drive.


God bless Shakespeare's soul, BTW do you actually own the real game for PC ? If so, Why weren't you on BETA 2 ? Would you care to prove me wrong by showing a snap of the games box & disc with a slip of your username next to it ?

Once again, De God zegent slechte Shakespeare' s ziel .

hey kabooka... have u forgot me.. we have played many times in Ashes 09 online? but every time i have lost :laugh

 

[MattW]

Some of you are getting too far in your talk over piracy, posting details that can lead someone to a pirated copy of any game, or a method for doing so is unacceptable.

There is a difference between discussing the issues and explaining how something is done. Also, if you can't post it on the forum, sending details of something via PM breaks the rules just as much. Hit the report button if someone links you to pirated stuff via PM.

 

[aadhavzone]

Good point, since sports games are now all about online play, they might as well consider the single player as a demo. People who really want the game will eventually buy it after getting tired of the single player and wanting to play online

Agree Mate.. codies should do this!

 

[Kabooka]

hey kabooka... have u forgot me.. we have played many times in Ashes 09 online? but every time i have lost :laugh

I remember you buddy, we played many times & you did lose every time & even quit once

No More piracy talk Aadhvan ...... atleast not out of Somalia













About you quitting , I was pulling your leg

 

[pcfan123]

The sooner piracy goes down the better....which would probably need the right pricing (read AC09 pricing in India). Decide on an affordable price and piracy is beaten. People should support the developers. Piracy is like that random guy stealing your own invention and marketing it without your consent. Imagine how we would feel.

Uhhh hell no. They priced AC09 at 500 rupees (10 dollars) if that is not low enough then nothing ever will be for that market.

Honestly 10 dollars (less then the cost of dinner) was a slap in the face for all the programmers and developers to begin with and even that did not sell.

PC gaming market has AIDS, im glad they are avoiding it.

 

[Varun]

They just need to remove some corruption.

 

[Cricketiswin]

They will miss all the constructive critique if they don't release it on PC.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

Yeah, they will lose quite a few pirate PC fans. That's a good thing.

FAIL, lol, PS3 uses Blu-Ray. Anyway, I don't think that many PC's these days have Blu-Ray drives, only the newer ones do. That in itself will cut out a lot of sales.

Anyway, do yourself a favour, go buy a PS3, it's for real gaming. Don't cry about how this isn't on PC, because tbh, they have made the right decision and they're not changing their minds.

Any PC can have a Blu-Ray drive fitted - most gaming PCs are built to exact spec. these days anyway. And let's cut this crap about PCs not being real gaming machines, eh? When the PC is used to anywhere above 60% of its capability, it pisses all over the consoles. Fact. Most games that come out on PC and consoles are superior on PC. Fact. And finally, you will never be able to mod games on the consoles to the extent you can on PC.

Oh, and while we're at it, most PC gamers are not pirates, just the same as most Muslims are not terrorists. Each group has a minority that drags everyone else down.

MasterBlaster76 added 0 Minutes and 46 Seconds later...

They will miss all the constructive critique if they don't release it on PC.

Not to mention people to beta test their inevitable patches... :laugh

@Kabooka: I can buy a Blu-Ray drive for ?40 at my local computer shop - you've been well and truly had if you paid $300 for one!! After that, it's a simple procedure to fit the drive and install the drivers.

 

[sachin_rocks]

Honestly 10 dollars (less then the cost of dinner) was a slap in the face for all the programmers and developers to begin with and even that did not sell.

Actually in india 500 rupees is more than the cost of dinner
and also do you know that developers are not affected by the sales of the game as publishers pay the developers before hand and take all the risk and the profit/loss of the sales of the game

 

[pcfan123]

Uh no,

I would rather sell fewer copies of something I worked hard on for full price then offer my hard work for peanuts and still have people spit in my face and steal my work.

I hope they never release another PC cricket game again. I doubt Codies will and EA have already stopped making PC versions of all major sports games bar Fifa.

Enjoy cricket revolution :laugh

 

[MasterBlaster76]

The way I see it mate, games aren't pirated regularly on Xbox 360 and PS3, yet they're still made on discs, aren't they? Why don't they just use the same technology on the discs made for PCs? Blu-Ray isn't necessary: the Xbox doesn't use them, does it? If they wanted to find a way to reduce piracy (without ridiculous DRM), they could. End of!

MasterBlaster76 added 1 Minutes and 14 Seconds later...

Uh no,

I would rather sell fewer copies of something I worked hard on for full price then offer my hard work for peanuts and still have people spit in my face and steal my work.

I hope they never release another PC cricket game again. I doubt Codies will and EA have already stopped making PC versions of all major sports games bar Fifa.

Enjoy cricket revolution :laugh

Note they said they're not ruling out a PC version in the future. And Codies are still making F1 on the PC. You're not being very fair on PC gamers to be honest - this idea that the majority of us are pirates is just wrong.

Edit: I can't remember where I read it, but many pirates do actually buy the game eventually - if they like it. I'm not condoning pirating games whether good or bad, but devs could do themselves a favour and make all games worth buying (cough...Fifa 10 PC...cough).

 

[AbBh]

The way I see it mate, games aren't pirated regularly on Xbox 360 and PS3, yet they're still made on discs, aren't they? Why don't they just use the same technology on the discs made for PCs? Blu-Ray isn't necessary: the Xbox doesn't use them, does it? If they wanted to find a way to reduce piracy (without ridiculous DRM), they could. End of!

If it worked that way, your PC wouldn't be a PC!
PS3 and Xbox 360 are closed platforms. They control your access to it via firmware and your PSN/Live accounts. You need to pay a license fee to obtain the Software Development Kit for a console. Something that pirates cannot obtain. The hardware can be reverse engineered, but it is significantly harder and firmware updates can render modded consoles useless. No one complains because all of this doesn't get in the way of playing games or watching movies, which is the purpose of consoles.

PC is essentially an open platform. There are thousands of development tools available for free. Anyone that wants to develop for it, can develop for it. The OS developers can't control how you want to use it even if they wanted to. The instruction set for x64/x86 processors is available to anyone that wants it. Its easy to reverse engineer software and remove all restrictions. Hardware manufacturers can enforce restrictions, but if they did, the functionality would be severly limited.

 

[Kshitiz_Indian]

Uh no,

I would rather sell fewer copies of something I worked hard on for full price then offer my hard work for peanuts and still have people spit in my face and steal my work.

I hope they never release another PC cricket game again. I doubt Codies will and EA have already stopped making PC versions of all major sports games bar Fifa.

Enjoy cricket revolution :laugh

There, what's what you think, and to each his own. I'd rather prefer that I sell something for less price but make many more sales, get people into the habit of buying original stuff and enjoying its benefits, rather than just going the traditional route and constantly moaning about piracy everytime.

$10 is a cost of a very normal dinner for 1 or 2 people in US, yes. But value for money just doesn't scale that easily. In India a whole family could have a pretty good dinner at that price. I'm not saying people are poor, I'm just saying that directly scaling value for money doesn't work.

Oh and btw, even if developers price games at Rs. 200, we won't be seeing record breaking sales in India in the beginning (partly because the local game seller is giving the same game at Rs. 50 or something). It has to be a slow process, and I'm glad companies are coming forward and taking a step.

Btw, on your remark about people wanting to drive prices more down than Rs. 500, I agree with you there, anything lower just plain ol sucks. 500 bucks is the perfect price, and people WILL start buying original games, at least most of the crowd. When I told many of my mates about GTA IV selling for 500 bucks, many of them did buy the game because they felt the game offered tremendous value for money and they enjoyed all the "box" and stuff that comes along with the retail version. I can assure you, these were people that won't have bought the game if it was priced the traditional way (Like 2000 bucks).

Kshitiz_Indian added 4 Minutes and 1 Seconds later...

If it worked that way, your PC wouldn't be a PC!
PS3 and Xbox 360 are closed platforms. They control your access to it via firmware and your PSN/Live accounts. You need to pay a license fee to obtain the Software Development Kit for a console. Something that pirates cannot obtain. The hardware can be reverse engineered, but it is significantly harder and firmware updates can render modded consoles useless. No one complains because all of this doesn't get in the way of playing games or watching movies, which is the purpose of consoles.

PC is essentially an open platform. There are thousands of development tools available for free. Anyone that wants to develop for it, can develop for it. The OS developers can't control how you want to use it even if they wanted to. The instruction set for x64/x86 processors is available to anyone that wants it. Its easy to reverse engineer software and remove all restrictions. Hardware manufacturers can enforce restrictions, but if they did, the functionality would be severly limited.

A perfect explanation! But in this case, Codies did act foolish, not even verifying the CD key while in the online mode (they did it with GRID too).

Its a random idea but maybe they can start producing and shipping tiny USB keys or something with a copy of the game, without which the game won't start. Kinda like those they sometimes give people for Credit Cards and stuff.

 

[pcfan123]

Why is there not a government effort to stop piracy. If local shops are selling pirated games then the problem will never go away. I guarantee you if you tried to sell pirated media in public here the police would be on you in 1-2 days.

 

[appu2146]

I think the Ashes 09 game was released all over the world. but as many of you guys are saying that piracy in India and Pakistan caused loss to the company made me think that its only released in India and Pakistan.

If the company had loss because of the piracy then its not because of piracy only India and Pakistan guys, Its whole world they released the game.

I think that the gaming market in India is not that high as other countries so that only they lowered the price for Ashes 09. They know the conditions in our countries so they(publishers) are taking steps to reduce the piracy and in my point of view they are achieving the goal. I don't know the stats but i know many of them brought original copy's of GTA4 and Ashes 09. The only thing is that the availability of the gameshop selling them is less.

With this post i am not supporting the piracy. I am saying that we are fighting piracy here and its not because of us. The company had the loss and International cricket 10 lost its way through PC this time.

Those who blaming that piracy in India and pakistan for the game loss should stop it Please.

-pradi