End Game Star Wars Mafia - End Mafia(Surendar) & Third Party (Fake Passport) Won

[Till Valhalla]

Day 4
They thought the voice that will break the silence will clear the skies ahead but the voice was of a gunshot and accompanying it was the dead body of @surendar
He was the Security Chief on the base(Vanilla Town).
[COLOR=rgb(0, 108, 0)]@Fake Passport[/COLOR] @Villain @surendar @Simon @swacker @RUDOLPH @El Loco @zwarrior @CaptainCremer @Varun
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[DOUBLEPOST=1500892270][/DOUBLEPOST]It takes 5 to lynch.[DOUBLEPOST=1500892289][/DOUBLEPOST]Tell me if the tags didn't work.[DOUBLEPOST=1500892336][/DOUBLEPOST]Note: Don't look in the time delay as it was my fault, My internet connection was not working.

 

[El Loco]

Another townie dead, not ideal. I am still trying to work out if there was an element to either asprin or Surendar's play that the Mafia felt was threatening. If they had reason to believe asprin was a PR, then they have some way of finding out which isn't ideal.
It's not an uncommon tactic to go for somebody who is confirmed town, assuming that rationale that the Mafia maybe felt that Surendar was the least likely to get lynched, perhaps, which is interesting.
Isn't Varun high up on everyone's town list atm though? He was on mine at least, so why did the Mafia not opt to go for him? Or even me lol.
Can anyone offer any suggestions to the motives behind the Mafia kills?

I am relieved that I hammered on the previous day though because I was cautious at first, but the reasons I stated did tip me over the edge. I am still of the opinion that Villain was being thrown under the bus by his mates, so everyone who lynched him isn't in the clear for me.

The NK on night 1 still lingers in my mind too. If a townie PR instigated it, then surely they are still around, no? The proposition does give me some hope. The only PR we have lost is a cop, so anyone who doesn't agree with this particular assumption is presumably of the belief that the Mafia opted for an NK themselves.
I could further theorise that every kill the Mafia has made so far after Night 1 has been targeted at someone they thought had this PR, that is if it was indeed responsible for the NK, as they would know.

 

[zwarrior]

Another townie dead, not ideal. I am still trying to work out if there was an element to either asprin or Surendar's play that the Mafia felt was threatening. If they had reason to believe asprin was a PR, then they have some way of finding out which isn't ideal.

Is there anything like rogue cop or something in star wars universe ? Maybe there is someone in mafias ( rogue cop) who investigate and get the role of town people ? Maybe that's how asprin's role was correctly guessed or it's just a coincidence.

 

[zwarrior]

The NK on night 1 still lingers in my mind too. If a townie PR instigated it, then surely they are still around, no? The proposition does give me some hope. The only PR we have lost is a cop, so anyone who doesn't agree with this particular assumption is presumably of the belief that the Mafia opted for an NK themselves.

I don't think that mafias would go for a no night kill. There has to be a doctor around. Or Role blocker who blocked a mafia..

 

[surendar]

Am extremely glad that was able to get Godfather out, we are still having a good lead!! (Banana smiley)

Good luck townies!!

 

[Varun]

Or Role blocker who blocked a mafia..

We don't.

 

[RUDI]

Well played scum, two of our power roles, are gone..
The scum seems to have an investigation role and a killing ability..
Personally I think that there is a huge FOS on both the non voters/lynchers and on those who has lynched someone other than Villain.
Personally I think we have a 2-2-4
setup now.
2 x scum
2 x self aligned guys (with chat ability)
4 x Vanilla's (hopefully we still have a power role .. perhaps a doctor )

To investigate :
Scum - Swacker and zwarrior/Simon
Self aligned guys - Captaincremer & Varun
Town - Fake, Rudolph, El Loco (?)

A proposal to the possible self aligned guys ... join us in flushing these scum out...

 

[Varun]

surendar was killed because he was the only player cleared of nearly all suspicion so far.

We don't have a roleblocker as I said it the post above because no one counterclaimed against Villain. The doctor protected the town on Night 1 it seems.

I obviously have heavy suspicions on swacker and Simon, but I'll reread the thread by tomorrow and see everyone's dynamic with surendar and Villain and post my thoughts. Meanwhile since we're at Day 4, I think any results will be appreciated.[DOUBLEPOST=1500915969][/DOUBLEPOST]

Self aligned guys - Captaincremer & Varun

I'm a vanilla town, not self aligned.[DOUBLEPOST=1500916052][/DOUBLEPOST]

Town - Fake, Rudolph, El Loco (?)

Interestingly Villain used the same phrasing as Fake Passport while claiming his role but I think that should actually clear Fake because he was probably trying to just copy him to make us suspicious of Fake just in case Villain would get lynched, which he did.

 

[swacker]

I don't want to be the person that ends up dying extremely early in the game for my theories that may not even be correct later in the game, reason for me not posting much.

If we get to a later day with few people left, I'll come back and kick some mafia ass. Or if questions come by.

 

[Varun]

Or if questions come by.

Sure. Who do you think is mafia?

 

[SiriusBlack]

Villain has mostly shown positive vibes this time

I find Villain a little scummy too but it's Yashdude. You never know with him. :|

Was reading through for people mentioning Villain, and just dug these posts out from Varun. Seems like an attempt to clear him from a lynch before he went in himself. I feel like that's more of an attempt to clear himself out of suspicion in the following day. And again, he was the one to clear surendar out and encouraged people not to lynch him, and then

surendar was killed because he was the only player cleared of nearly all suspicion so far.

From my observation it was only Varun who cleared surendar for the most part. Loco and myself both had reads on him, and I don't remember anyone else clearing surendar completely. Surendar also had leads on CC and Varun that he was trying to bring into the limelight but couldn't, and that was overshadowed yesterday with everyone jumping onto Villain.

I was tempted to clear off CC for this exchange right here bc it seemed plausible

Did you claim a character though?

At no point have I claimed to be just vanilla town, but my character description is a wookie helping to defend the base.

Oh right. So essentially, Chewie. I'm inclined to believe that.

but weren't they the same people who went after surendar regarding generic names? And it so just happens that the same two people had generic names to clear themselves off? And the same person who sensed a connection gets lynched off? I'm not completely sure on this but it just seems.. off. Can't get a firmer read on anyone else atm which is why I'm holding off on making my mind up.

 

[Varun]

From my observation it was only Varun who cleared surendar for the most part.

I cited my reasons for clearing him, and they were really obvious. I did it because El Loco, me, and the others were suspicious of surendar and as soon as I read through the entire chat I figured out his reason for clearing Rudolph as soon as he posted his win condition (which is to eliminate the sith/mafia). Obviously I will clear a confirmed townie who's coming under so much fire by everyone.

I didn't try to clear Villain lol. As soon as he claimed, I pointed out that a Mad Scientist is probably going to be anti-town and his defenses were scummy enough for me to not need to explain my lynch.

surendar regarding generic names? And it so just happens that the same two people had generic names to clear themselves off? And the same person who sensed a connection gets lynched off? I'm not completely sure on this but it just seems.. off. Can't get a firmer read on anyone else atm which is why I'm holding off on making my mind up.

Everyone (or almost everyone) has generic character names. I didn't figure it out in the beginning, when I thought only vanilla townies did. But as soon as we were told that Aspirin was a cop, it became obvious that this isn't wasn't true. So I corrected myself.

 

[Fake Passport]

f we get to a later day with few people left, I'll come back and kick some mafia ass. Or if questions come by.

If everyone played like that it wouldn't be fun
Can you give a gun to head list of you think are anti-town?

I broadly agree with Rudis reads, although I agree with loco in that the villain wagon isn't necessarily clean.

 

[zwarrior]

Scum - Swacker and zwarrior/Simon

Why do you think I am scum ? What do you mean by 'To investigate : ' ?

 

[RUDI]

It's for me to investigate Why (not supposed to use previous games ) but to answer you - you played similar in our scum match + as I said before FOS on the non lynchers and those who didn't want to lynch Villain...
To be continued... as I still need to investigate.