Australia tour of India (Feb '17/Mar '17)

Instead of calling Smith "Lucky" you should call your Indian fielder "weak"... They drop their chance that doesn't mean we are lucky.. They are weak, accept it.. And it's not the 1st time where India failed in fielding.. The same thing happened against England too...[DOUBLEPOST=1487951190][/DOUBLEPOST]Indians = when they got success they call it hard work. And when they fail they blame the opposition as lucky.. :clap
"Luck" surely the main culprit here. Why you just come across and post AGAINST someone's opinion? Did anyone/me stop you or question your posts/opinion (Except posts of your appreciation to so called GG)?

So Steven Smith wait for fielders to drop his catch and hope to get more runs and call himself the best batsman? If he got out on 1st instance then you wouldn't have posted this and would've said "Smith was very much in pressure. He needs to play well in next game"

How many chance does Kohli give in Australia? And how much Smith gives in India? If the same was the case for Vijay where his catch gets dropped then I bet a billion dollar, you would've logged into PlanetCricket and straightway click the 'Australia tour of India' thread and type the 'Lucky' word and post it within few seconds.
 
"Luck" surely the main culprit here. Why you just come across and post AGAINST someone's opinion? Did anyone/me stop you or question your posts/opinion (Except posts of your appreciation to so called GG)?

So Steven Smith wait for fielders to drop his catch and hope to get more runs and call himself the best batsman? If he got out on 1st instance then you wouldn't have posted this and would've said "Smith was very much in pressure. He needs to play well in next game"

How many chance does Kohli give in Australia? And how much Smith gives in India? If the same was the case for Vijay where his catch gets dropped then I bet a billion dollar, you would've logged into PlanetCricket and straightway click the 'Australia tour of India' thread and type the 'Lucky' word and post it within few seconds.
No.. I am not gonna say only good about Aus and bad about IND..
But I have seen so many post as saying that Australia is lucky etc ..
Did IND batted well? No, but Aus did. That doesn't mean we are lucky.. Yes we had problems in subcontinent.. But we improved alot.. And you can observe that from the match..
As a cricket fan we must appreciate Aus efforts and blame India's overconfident approach..
Last time also everyone called Cook as lucky..
There are slip, FSL, etc to catch the ball.. Yesterday Kohli take some good catches.. Those are worth Praising.. But catch drops too worth blaming.. Don't call the batsman lucky just because the fielder didn't catch the ball..
 
No.. I am not gonna say only good about Aus and bad about IND..
But I have seen so many post as saying that Australia is lucky etc ..
Did IND batted well? No, but Aus did. That doesn't mean we are lucky.. Yes we had problems in subcontinent.. But we improved alot.. And you can observe that from the match..
As a cricket fan we must appreciate Aus efforts and blame India's overconfident approach..
Last time also everyone called Cook as lucky..
There are slip, FSL, etc to catch the ball.. Yesterday Kohli take some good catches.. Those are worth Praising.. But catch drops too worth blaming.. Don't call the batsman lucky just because the fielder didn't catch the ball..
Then what would you call it? 'Batsmen were giving catching practice to the fielders'? Just tell me what you call the situation wherein the batsmen catch is dropped by the fielder.

And when did you fly back to Australia? You were in India and were posting about GG, right? From when you started acting like a foreigner?
 
Then what would you call it? 'Batsmen were giving catching practice to the fielders'? Just tell me what you call the situation wherein the batsmen catch is dropped by the fielder.

And when did you fly back to Australia? You were in India and were posting about GG, right? From when you started acting like a foreigner?
They didn't dropped any though..

 
Why do people abuse each other? espc. India,Pakistani and Bangladesh fans .Just watched the youtube comments on the above posted video abusive rants going all around in the comment section and this is the same almost everywhere on the internet be it a official ICC fb page or any other sports related page.Firstly it was India and Pakistani fans but since the no ball after the 2015 WC incident Bangladeshi fans too joined.
Fortunately this forum is a place for healthy discussions and no such things happen here.
 
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Why do people abuse each other? espc. India,Pakistani and Bangladesh fans .Just watched the youtube comments on the above posted video abusive rants going all around in the comment section and this is the same almost everywhere on the internet be it a official ICC fb page or any other sports related page.Firstly it was India and Pakistani fans but since the no ball after the 2015 WC incident Bangladeshi fans too joined.
Fortunately this forum is a place for healthy and no such things happen here.
They're brainwashed from their country's politicians into thinking that the "war" they're fighting makes sense.
 
Why do people abuse each other? espc. India,Pakistani and Bangladesh fans .Just watched the youtube comments on the above posted video abusive rants going all around in the comment section and this is the same almost everywhere on the internet be it a official ICC fb page or any other sports related page.Firstly it was India and Pakistani fans but since the no ball after the 2015 WC incident Bangladeshi fans too joined.
Fortunately this forum is a place for healthy and no such things happen here.

To be very honest with you, I've been discussing cricket on the internet for more than a decade now and not once have I come to exchanging abuses or bans with Pakis. There are idiots on either side of the border. However, while I hate to generalise, the Bangladeshi fans in general are a nuisance and outright pathetic. I literally quit Cricinfo because of them. To give you two mild examples-

1) If you guys remember, Subrata Roy bought a Pune franchise and in some particular year Tamim Iqbal was part of the squad. He was out of the playing XI, obviously because the other foreigners were better but this fan on Cricinfo was convinced that the Indians had bought him off so that he couldn't practice in the off season, neither shine in the league. This is simply, the worst I saw and believe me I saw plenty. It was just generic in them.

2) In the recently concluded T20 WC, there were lots of Bangladeshi people in the stands supporting WI because they beat India who had beaten Bangladesh. OK, while that's sort of being sour (M Rahim), suddenly they started treating the English fans in the stands like they were anti Bangladesh or something. So from supporting WI for silly reasons, they went to being anti England just because they were beating the WI. And, I have had the pleasure of watching tests with English fans and they're a joy to be around. They have immense knowledge of the game and I've personally learnt a lot from them as to how to conduct oneself as a fan. Sure the banter is brilliant and they too aren't shy of getting under your skin, but they don't make it personal and they don't shy from standing and applauding when the opposition does well. This Bangladeshi fan literally came to blows with the Englishman who was perfectly mild mannered.

3) Bangladesh fans seem to believe they're the best cricket team in all formats and the world conspires against them to keep them down. In my opinion, they're the most improved team but their fans are one almighty embarrassment.
 
Well if you're going to troll and be proud about it then you're going to get aggression. If you care to read which you often don't on this board, I just wanted to go about ranting 4-zip because in my teens (the Ansett Australia) test series, the Aussie fans would laugh when India came to their shores. Any realistic and sensible cricket fan would have told you that the Aussies were in for a proper caning. If you think the Indian fans don't respect the Australian team or their fans, then you're mistaken and much like most of your opinions, it's complete garbage. The Aussies are by FAR the best cricket team since cricket began. I'm speaking on an overall basis and even though I'm Indian, I don't doubt or not accept that. Just like you, a lot of people (Indians) here are Steve Smith fans, but he's been a shadow of his great self with the bat in this test match. You raving about it tells me you just decided to log on to Cricinfo/Cricbuzz and decided to come here and babble your little rant. He was dropped repeatedly, through no fault of his own but a batsman of his calibre is capable of scoring a chance less ton on that wicket and that's what we expect from him. Sorry, but Smith was actually poor.

Can anyone reading this discussion tell me how suddenly de Villiers ability has become a subject of debate? Or the BCCI?

Every sportsperson has his critics and supporters, it's a law of the world. I can totally live with AB's critics. What is 'garbage' (I have to repeatedly use that term because of your post) is that people conveniently tell us stats don't lie yet ignore those same stats when used against them. I can guarantee that if India were in the position Australia is in, you would have come over here to tell us how this is not a test match level pitch like you were during the SA tour.

Lastly, if you think we're only a 'Bangladesh thumping side' I'm glad you're not sitting on the chair Haroon Lorgat is because you would have withdrawn SA from all ICC World Cups decades ago! When was the last time you guys actually won something called a World Cup again? *cough CHOKE cough*!

Oh and until you come out of the rat hole again, did I say 'Owned?'

I've never said anything about Indian fans not respecting Australia. I said people thought they'd get hammered (which we agree on) and it's nice to see an upset, it's like if Spurs lose to Gent, obviously no one expected it but once it happened it's nice to bring it up to Spurs fans. I've read your post multiple times but I don't see you mentioning the Aussies during the time you were younger yet you're telling me I need to read? Let's have some class if we are to debate and stop personal attacks, that's immaturity and ruins the experience. The Aussies are the best team in history but as of right now they are a shadow of what they used to be. I'm not sure what you're arguing about.

I watched nearly the whole match (my cricket match was moved to the afternoon so I spent the whole day watching it) and I did not just log onto cricinfo. Where did I rave about Smith? When I said that I enjoy watching the Aussies bring India down to Earth (especially Smith)? That isn't raving, I didn't call Smith a god. I didn't say he is better then the Indian batting line up combined. He didn't bat well, he offered India countless amounts of chances but they couldn't take them and now he's making them pay (not very well, but he still is). Thats the sign of a good batsmen. On a pitch where not a lot of batsmen scored runs you can't 'expect' him to score a perfect ton. To say he was poor is harsh, he's still there and batting which is more the all the batsmen from both sides have done.

I never said that AB or the BCCI were part of this. What I said was that based off of those disagreements you dismiss my opinions (which you did countless amounts of time in this thread again) and you seem to heavily dislike me (which from what I can tell from your steaming reply, is true). What stats are you talking about? Another insult as well, I don't know why. I can't remember someone using the same stats I've given only for me to dismiss them. You're putting words into my mouth. No, if Aus were in this position I would of had no complaints just like what I've done the whole summer. Ah yes, the pitches which were rated poor by the ICC and were criticized by some Indian fans and Harsha Bhogle. What on Earth was I thinking saying they were poor. But once you're putting words in my mouth, you don't know that I was going to do that. You have no evidence but you make up some fantasy about me doing it to help your argument. Thats poor negotiation skills and quite rude.

You clearly missed the '/s they are a good side' I put in brackets after Bangladesh-thumping. Incase you don't know /s shows that the previous statement was sarcasm and 'they are a good side' means that I think India are good at cricket. I'm also happy I'm not in Lorgats chair because I would have banned quota and dropped every fast bowler and only let Imran Tahir and Dane Paterson bowl from either end (again, sarcasm). On what basis do you think I would have withdrawn the SA side from the World Cup? We've done more then just beat Bangladesh so I don't understand your argument. Once again words being thrown into my mouth and you insulting me about not winning a World Cup.

Also I don't have a rat hole, I have a social life which does not let me live 24/7 on a cricket forum, there's a difference. When did I say you said owned? Are we even reading the same posts? You seem to enjoy throwing words into my mouth but you never listen to what comes out of it.

Whatever I'm over this. You've thrown countless insults, said that my opinions are useless and used made up scenarios to back up your arguments. I don't know your age (and I'm not trying to insult you, just being honest) but you've shown countless signs of immaturity. I'm in genuine shock how aggressive and dismissive you've been. I've got better things to do then sit here arguing with someone who's making up the whole argument in their head. You're clearly arguing against two replies (mine and the replies you want me to send). If you want to have a debate where we respect eachother and not throw stupid insults (honestly I'm shocked how rude you were) then you can reply and give your points, not make mine up and treat me with decency (whether you like it or not, I know a lot about cricket and sometimes my opinion is correct) otherwise you can come and throw more insults but that will prove that you aren't ready to be discussing on an online forum and I can ignore your posts.
 
Will India ever learn that these kind of pitches are not what they require to win? I thought they had learned the lesson after seeing the surfaces in the England series.
Exactly. Also the fact that Australia batted on the first day and it was easier for them if you compared to the pitch of day 3. I now have no faith in our winning this match or even drawing it, no way. This pitch will turn like crazy. It seems making a proper pitch that does not turn from day one is India's best shot at victory. Sure, we boast a great lineup. But I feel India will go down now due to the score they produced.
 
Will India ever learn that these kind of pitches are not what they require to win? I thought they had learned the lesson after seeing the surfaces in the England series.
Well i thought with Shastri gone no one from the team management will opt for rank turners - he was the one who always demanded turners and heavily favoured them.
Pune is generally a very good batting track ODI and t20 cricket and always had good bounce in it.The curator might have messed up and made the pitch too dry (my assumption could be too vague).
 
Unless the target for the fourth innings is 450+, India will still have a reasonable chance of winning. Don't let one (freak) innings fool you, lightning doesn't strike twice. Rahul has shown that batting on the pitch isn't impossible provided you apply yourself so that's something the Indian batsmen will definitely look at.

Shaun Marsh hasn't even scored his customary century in the first innings of a series which allows him to flop for the remaining matches, hope he's dropped for Khawaja. It's tough to comprehend what he offers the team.

Lightning strikes twice only when Pakistan are involved (59 & 53) and even then, well...it is usually assisted lightning
 
"Luck" surely the main culprit here. Why you just come across and post AGAINST someone's opinion? Did anyone/me stop you or question your posts/opinion (Except posts of your appreciation to so called GG)?

So Steven Smith wait for fielders to drop his catch and hope to get more runs and call himself the best batsman? If he got out on 1st instance then you wouldn't have posted this and would've said "Smith was very much in pressure. He needs to play well in next game"

How many chance does Kohli give in Australia? And how much Smith gives in India? If the same was the case for Vijay where his catch gets dropped then I bet a billion dollar, you would've logged into PlanetCricket and straightway click the 'Australia tour of India' thread and type the 'Lucky' word and post it within few seconds.
When it comes to an Australian batsman getting praised you'll always get rubbish like this ^^ from Indian fans. "He got dropped so he's crap" blah blah blah
 
Well that was embarrassing. Australia have played with so much determination. Firstly really got impressed by Renshaw and his batting. That lad has to have a good series. Would love to see him Hameed and few others building our future cricket generation. Secondly Starc & O'Keefe you beauty. Well bowled and just what India needed. Do not fricking have a pitch where you explode yourself. Having said I am sure Kohli and team will not let this slip easily in fourth innings but will have to play out their skins to save this now.
 

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