ICCCT2006: Group A

[nightprowler10]

But they both lost to probably the bottom 2 favourite teams (now that Pak lost their attack), the other games will only get harder.

I don't understand why people keep rating Pakistan as one of the worst teams in the competition after Asif and Akhtar's exclusion. We beat India in India and white washed the West Indies last year without those two, although admittedly Asif sucked back then.

 

[irottev]

I think those 2 games have the proven futher that this competition is anyones for the taking. Minus England. So maybe Pak deserve to raise a spot.

 

[aditya123]

What a Game !!!
Just what the tournament needed as Ian Chappel said.
Group A has now ben thrown wide open to most possibilities.
If India beat WI and the Aussies win their remaining 2 games, there will be 3 teams with 2 wins (assuming England do not win any of their 2 games) .

It will be down to the NRR then (and that is why England`s 125 a.o will be of great use to India )

Group B is a highly unpredictable group.
Some really exciting cricket coming up.
This could be the best Champions Trophy ever and the crowds are starting to pour in for the non-India games as well which is great to see.

I feel India V Windies on Thursday will be the key somehow.

 

[surendar]

I feel India V Windies on Thursday will be the key somehow.

yup... Windies have dominated Indians in last two series... But India have the advantage of playing in home conditions!!!

So i feel it must be an exciting match!! Also going to be an important one for out of form Sehwag,Dravid & Dhoni... Infact Dhoni has been dismissed cheaply in recent matches.....

 

[aussie_ben91]

If India beat WI and the Aussies win their remaining 2 games, there will be 3 teams with 2 wins (assuming England do not win any of their 2 games)

That's assuming if they can beat Australia. Which they failed to do in their DLF matches against us.

 

[aditya123]

If India beat WI and the Aussies win their remaining 2 games, there will be 3 teams with 2 wins (assuming England do not win any of their 2 games) .

That's assuming if they can beat Australia. Which they failed to do in their DLF matches against us.

I assumed Australia to beat India and India beating the Windies which would leave India with 2 wins since they`ve already beaten England .
And don`t forget that we came pretty close to beating a full strength Aussie team at KL last month just to lose by some 15 runs .
We threw that game away, really .
And a couple of umpiring decisions of Dhoni and Bhajji cost us bigtime.
So you guys are not invincible as the Windies showed yesterday , especially not in these Indian conditions.

And England causing an upset or two will really set the cat amongst the pigeons for the Aussies.

If you just look at how the Aussies have fared this year in ODIs, they lost a coule at home to the Sri Lankans in the VB Series (once in the Best of 3 finals).
Lost the ODI series to SA in SA.
Lost a couple to the Windies already and cam pretty close to being beatn by India in Malaysia once.

We`ve never really seen the Aussies losing these many in the past few years , have we ??
Thy still are the best side around but not far away from the rst of the pack.
Thir batting looks brittle to me and relies heavily on Gilly and Ponting to get them through.
Hussey is due for a lean period which he has`nt had since his debut.

Things are only looking up for the rest of the ODI sides.

 

[aussie_ben91]

Rest to sure you Indians can breathe a big sigh of relief because Hayden won't be playing. He rips you're attacks everytime he plays you.

I don't think that the West Indies proving that we aren't invinciable will increase you're chances against us whatsoever. It will just increase our hunger to win and I wouldn't go saying you only lost by 15 runs because you threw it away because if I remember rightly, we we're on the verge of knocking you guys over for under 50 in one of those DLF games before it started raining.

And why do you think we're losing more ODI's then we have in the past? We no longer have the likes of Warne, Hayden, Lehnman, the Waugh brothers in our current squad along with the fact that McGrath hasn't been playing this past year aswell.

 

[kodos]

I think those 2 games have the proven futher that this competition is anyones for the taking. Minus England. So maybe Pak deserve to raise a spot.

So by your assumption, when one team performs poorly in one game, they are non favourites?? West Indies were bundled out for 80 yet, they performed brilliantly to defeat Australia. If England defeat Australia then Australia will pretty much be knocked out and England or WI will qualify.

Rest to sure you Indians can breathe a big sigh of relief because Hayden won't be playing. He rips you're attacks everytime he plays you.

Hayden is a different OD player nowadays so I don't think Hayden will dominate bowling attacks as much as he did a few years back. He no longer just bludgens and bully the bowlers anymore. Nowadays he is often as slow as Katich (which is quite unbelievable) and really I don't see a point in bringing Hayden back in the team when you have got Jaques knocking on the door already.

And why do you think we're losing more ODI's then we have in the past? We no longer have the likes of Warne, Hayden, Lehnman, the Waugh brothers in our current squad along with the fact that McGrath hasn't been playing this past year aswell.

You will expect that from any team and from any sport. Once great players leave the game, the team is no longer as potent and strong as they once were. You can't possibly expect those players to play till the age of 40+.

Interesting tournament so far, 3 of the favourites so far have been beaten and are in jeopardy of failing to qualify to the semis. The pitch was much improved last night and we should see more pitches like that for the remainder of the tourament at Mumbai.

 

[irottev]

So by your assumption, when one team performs poorly in one game, they are non favourites?? West Indies were bundled out for 80 yet, they performed brilliantly to defeat Australia. If England defeat Australia then Australia will pretty much be knocked out and England or WI will qualify.
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I don't know where you got that from my quote? I never mentioned anything about favourites or anything like that :?

 

[aussie_ben91]

Hayden is a different OD player nowadays so I don't think Hayden will dominate bowling attacks as much as he did a few years back. He no longer just bludgens and bully the bowlers anymore. Nowadays he is often as slow as Katich (which is quite unbelievable) and really I don't see a point in bringing Hayden back in the team when you have got Jaques knocking on the door already.

How can you justify that? He plays slower in Test Match cricket, yeah but his played 2 One-Day internationals in the past year and I'm not confindent that his had all that much exposer to domestic OD's in that last year either.

You can't honestly expect him to go out and score at a fast pace after a year out of ODI cricket but he still basically made a half century and in the other game he played in he went at a strike-rate 81 and made 54 at that pace on a pitch where 90% of the player struggled to make runs on, let alone bat at a fast pace. You wouldn't of expected him to slow down the rate either if he wasn't runout.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

India has been unlucky in their last few losses, but they haven't done themselves any favours. They have been playing like idiots, taking stupiud runs, stupid shots, lazy fielding here and there and some stupid bowling now and then. Seems like they don't care. If they can get some sense and enthusiasm knocked into them, then they are unstoppable.

 

[surendar]

If they can get some sense and enthusiasm knocked into them, then they are unstoppable.

Agreed thats really true... This makes me to remember the things that happened in India when Indians lost against Aussies in the preliminary round & infact that has initiated the team to play with the spirit in rest of the tournament & even some cricket players( Dravid) appologised for their irresponisibility in TV!!!

Indians are yet to play at their best.. Dhoni,Sehwag,Irfan,Raina,Sreesanth(unfortunately not in the squad),Munaf,Powar are all flooded with talents..... But very few are utilising it at the same time... If everyone does it at the same time, I am sure that Indian team will be tough to play with!!!!

 

[IloveGilly]

Wow I thought there would be more posts in this section.

It's gonna be quite a game with India vs. WI which I think 2 teams who weren't going to make it as far as they could have.

It's gonna be interesting to see how India adapt to this tournament and how West Indies play the rest of the tournament.

 

[aussie_ben91]

Ponting wins the toss and bowls first. The last time he did that against England we saw one hell of a match.

 

[The Spin]

Aussies have dropped a sitter, Martyn the dropper, and England have been batting pretty well with no wickets lost. Could be a close game despite the difference in rankings and form