India in England/Ireland/Scotland

[Adarsh]

Kumble mostly bowls googlies, rarely spins a leggy. As such he's like facing a medium-pacer bowling off-cutters.

He doesn't mostly bowl googlies. He bowls one every over or two. Usually it's a legspinner that straightens just enough to get an LBW or take an edge.

 

[playkid12]

Some people are saying that Kumble needs to fire. I dont agree. I think the Indian bowlers did their job even when Kumble didn't fire. They restricted England to below 300 both of the times. Zaheer, RP, and Sree are a decent bowling attack. However, the batting needs a lot of help. Does India have an opener in Dravid or Ganguly? I remember that Dravid has, and often there has been talk of Ganguly opening (don't recall it happening though), but I don't know their average in that slot, but if they could, one of them could replace Jaffer and Yuvraj can get a spot lower down the order. Of course, we're taking them out of their comfort zone, so it's their decision.

 

[manee]

Does India have an opener in Dravid or Ganguly? I remember that Dravid has, and often there has been talk of Ganguly opening (don't recall it happening though), but I don't know their average in that slot, but if they could, one of them could replace Jaffer and Yuvraj can get a spot lower down the order. Of course, we're taking them out of their comfort zone, so it's their decision.

Dravid

                     Mat    I  NO  Runs HS1  HS2  HS3     Ave 100  50   0

Opening                8   13   2   369 128* 103   31   33.54   2   0   0
3rd position          84  137  15  7146 270  233  222   58.57  18  35   6
4th position          12   17   2   901 146  118   86   60.06   2   6   0
5th position           8    8   1   269 144*  53   27   38.42   1   1   0
6th position           6    8   2   413 180   81   68*  68.83   1   2   0
7th position           4    4   0   279  95   84   56   69.75   0   3   0

Sourav Ganguly

                     Mat    I  NO  Runs HS1  HS2  HS3     Ave 100  50   0

Opening                1    1   0    11  11    -    -   11.00   0   0   0
3rd position          11   17   1   739 136  136  131   46.18   3   2   2
4th position          11   15   2   767 173  101*  98*  59.00   2   3   0
5th position          52   77   6  2600 144  128  125   36.61   5  12   3
6th position          29   39   4  1456 147  109  100*  41.60   3  10   4
7th position           2    2   0    64  47   17    -   32.00   0   0   0

 

[zub2005]

india's bowling did very well and that wa the main worry. if the batting can perform, and the bowling a bit more better. i think india have a good chance

 

[Sureshot]

actually Kumbles record against England is worse than his career avaerge.

I think this is his 3rd tour of England, and he's taken very few wkts against England "IN ENGLAND". (in sub-continent is another story)

Kumble mostly bowls googlies, rarely spins a leggy. As such he's like facing a medium-pacer bowling off-cutters.

99% of his wkts are due to the bounce he gets, not his predigous spin.

On Kumble's stats...

http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?...edhigh=;csearch=;submit=1;.cgifields=viewtype

Surprised that only Pakistan play him better than us!

Those stats surprise me.

He averages 40 or more in Australia, England, New Zealand, Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

 

[dhoni dhamaka]

india's bowling did very well and that wa the main worry. if the batting can perform, and the bowling a bit more better. i think india have a good chance

.....easy to say :

 

[Adarsh]

On Kumble's stats...

http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?...edhigh=;csearch=;submit=1;.cgifields=viewtype

Surprised that only Pakistan play him better than us!

Those stats surprise me.

He averages 40 or more in Australia, England, New Zealand, Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

He's lethal in India. Not as good outside, but still a force to be reckoned with. That's why he isn't in the category of Warne and Murali.

 

[Sagacious]

Did anyone read this Daily mail article?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...tml?in_article_id=470441&in_page_id=1849&ct=5

They are blaming Bucknor... :P

 

[Adarsh]

What else do you expect from the Daily Mail ?

 

[evertonfan]

Yeah, the Daily Mail are a pile of anus.

So, who's betting on Trent Bridge being a decent pitch? I doubt it.

 

[Simbazz]

That LBW, although out, is one of the hardest to give, it was hitting the bails, and which umpire would give that?

But the Daily Mail are better than The Sun

 

[manee]

Dravid

                     Mat    I  NO  Runs HS1  HS2  HS3     Ave 100  50   0

Opening                8   13   2   369 128* 103   31   33.54   2   0   0
3rd position          84  137  15  7146 270  233  222   58.57  18  35   6
4th position          12   17   2   901 146  118   86   60.06   2   6   0
5th position           8    8   1   269 144*  53   27   38.42   1   1   0
6th position           6    8   2   413 180   81   68*  68.83   1   2   0
7th position           4    4   0   279  95   84   56   69.75   0   3   0

Sourav Ganguly

                     Mat    I  NO  Runs HS1  HS2  HS3     Ave 100  50   0

Opening                1    1   0    11  11    -    -   11.00   0   0   0
3rd position          11   17   1   739 136  136  131   46.18   3   2   2
4th position          11   15   2   767 173  101*  98*  59.00   2   3   0
5th position          52   77   6  2600 144  128  125   36.61   5  12   3
6th position          29   39   4  1456 147  109  100*  41.60   3  10   4
7th position           2    2   0    64  47   17    -   32.00   0   0   0

Interesting to note that Rahul Dravid is a seemingly nought or century man when opening with two centuries and no fifties, a lot like Wasim Jaffer and Sehwag, perhaps they would both be more suited to the middle order where Dravid has clearly flourished.

 

[Sureshot]

That LBW, although out, is one of the hardest to give, it was hitting the bails, and which umpire would give that?

But the Daily Mail are better than The Sun

That's like saying being bitten by a Great White is better than being bitten by a Crocodile.

He's lethal in India. Not as good outside, but still a force to be reckoned with. That's why he isn't in the category of Warne and Murali.

Don't get me wrong, he's still a threat. But those stats surprised, if not amazed me.

 

[Skater]

Looking back at it, and what happened after it, The Daily Mail are right, England were robbed. All papers over-exaggerate though, this is no exception.

No, I don't think the pitch at Trent Bridge will be too good. The groundsmen will have spent so long pumping the outfield they would not have had time to prepare the pitch too much.

 

[manee]

That's like saying being bitten by a Great White is better than being bitten by a Crocodile.

Don't get me wrong, he's still a threat. But those stats surprised, if not amazed me.

Stats are manipulated by situation.

In Australia, scores of over 500 are often posted by Australia and so an average of 40 would result. Few have good averages against Australia in Australia and fewer spinners because Australian pitches tend to favour pace bowlers. It is why most Australian spinners have average FC records. Even Warne averages 26.

England favours the pacers more than the spinners sine we rarely get dry grassless pitches here. Consequently, Kumble would mainly be bowled if there is a partnership developing, and in that situation he would not pick up wickets.

There are greentops in New Zealand and so Kumble would not get much helpful uneven bounce nor would he get much spin.

In Pakistan, scoring is generally high and the conditions are hot. Kumble would bowl most of the overs and so will likely go for many runs before taking a wicket. I am not sure about Sri Lanka, but I assume the same is there too.