New Zealand in Bangladesh, October 2010/11
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He's just never really been in the picture for ODI cricket.
Tuffey, Southee, Mills and McKay are all ahead of him in both formats, it's just that when he made his test debut both Mills and McKay were out injured.
I think they've gone for Bennett for his extra pace.
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Also I'd say Arnel will probably be in the picture for the Pakistan test series, assuming that still goes ahead.
Tuffey, Southee, Mills and McKay are all ahead of him in both formats, it's just that when he made his test debut both Mills and McKay were out injured.
I think they've gone for Bennett for his extra pace.
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Also I'd say Arnel will probably be in the picture for the Pakistan test series, assuming that still goes ahead.
OKP
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Never heard of this Bennett guy lol, averages something like 37 with the ball, don't really call that international quality.
Chewie
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Understandably Bennett was very surprised by his call-up: New Zealand news: Hamish Bennett 'stunned' at one-day call-up for tour of Bangladesh | New Zealand Cricket News | Cricinfo.com
He's been talked of around the forums for a few years now, and is regarded as one of the fastest bowlers in NZ. His record's not the greatest though and he didn't take any wickets and the emerging players tournament.
He's been talked of around the forums for a few years now, and is regarded as one of the fastest bowlers in NZ. His record's not the greatest though and he didn't take any wickets and the emerging players tournament.
Mashrafe Mortaza (capt), Shakib Al Hasan (vice-capt), Shahriar Nafees, Imrul Kayes, Junaid Siddique, Raqibul Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim (wk), Mahmudullah, Jahurul Islam, Naeem Islam, Abdur Razzak, Shafiul Islam, Rubel Hossain, Suhrawadi Shuvo
Bangladesh news: Tamim Iqbal undergoes surgery on troublesome wrist | Bangladesh Cricket News | Cricinfo.com
Bangladesh news: Tamim Iqbal undergoes surgery on troublesome wrist | Bangladesh Cricket News | Cricinfo.com
ferg512
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NZ doesnt deserve to play any higher ranked teams whenever we do we get thrashed every time. Im personally really worried about the overkill of ODIS before the world cup. Shouldnt they be playing less games so they are more fresh?
If that's the case, NZ would only be playing Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Playing only against low ranked teams isn't exactly going benefit anyone. Also, NZs player pool is much smaller than Australia or India so realistically we're going to struggle to compete. NZ doesn't have a team chock full of world class players. Besides, it's only in Tests that NZ really struggle to remain competitive. They do much better in ODIs.
If teams don't play ODIs before the World Cup, they're going to be fresh yes. But they'd be rusty from not playing. It's a good time to work out team combination and tactics. It's just good preparation.
IMO a full strength NZ is one of the best ODI sides in the world.
McCullum, Ryder, Styris, Taylor, Oram, Vettori, Mills
Chuck in a couple of younger guys, and all of a sudden you've got one of the better ODI sides going around.
McCullum and Ryder are statically one of the best opening pairs going around.
Since Ryder debuted, they've been the third most successful ODI opening pair. Ahead of them are G Gambhir, V Sehwag and TM Dilshan, WU Tharanga.
Styris and Taylor are both very good ODI players, pretty much your ideal ODI batsmen, can work it around if needed, but then can also bring out the big hits. (10th best 4th wicket partnership in the game since Taylor debuted, not great, but they're better players than that)
Oram, Vettori and Mills are three of the better ODI bowlers going around.
No one talks about how Oram's E/R over the last five years is yet to go over 4.32, IMO if it wasn't for all of his injuries, he's be one of the best AR's in the game. A very underrated bowler.
Just go look at Vettori and Mills stats, both among the top five ODI bowlers in the world.
Over the last five years, the list of best E/R's from top eight countries who've taken at least 50 wickets goes:
Pollock, Vettori, McGrath, Oram, Murali, Mendis, Bond, Vaas, Harbhajan, Hopes
Now lets go to average, same criteria:
No way, look at that, Mills in fourth.
If you take the criteria out to 100 wickets, look at that, Mills has been consistently the best strike bowler in the world for the last five years.
fearsome tweak I just get pissed off when people say NZ is ████ at ODI's because they are rubbish at tests, and I'll admit they are rubbish at tests, but I'd be quite confident in saying that they would be in my top four, maybe my top three ODI teams in the world. (Yes, ahead of India!)
McCullum, Ryder, Styris, Taylor, Oram, Vettori, Mills
Chuck in a couple of younger guys, and all of a sudden you've got one of the better ODI sides going around.
McCullum and Ryder are statically one of the best opening pairs going around.
Since Ryder debuted, they've been the third most successful ODI opening pair. Ahead of them are G Gambhir, V Sehwag and TM Dilshan, WU Tharanga.
Styris and Taylor are both very good ODI players, pretty much your ideal ODI batsmen, can work it around if needed, but then can also bring out the big hits. (10th best 4th wicket partnership in the game since Taylor debuted, not great, but they're better players than that)
Oram, Vettori and Mills are three of the better ODI bowlers going around.
No one talks about how Oram's E/R over the last five years is yet to go over 4.32, IMO if it wasn't for all of his injuries, he's be one of the best AR's in the game. A very underrated bowler.
Just go look at Vettori and Mills stats, both among the top five ODI bowlers in the world.
Over the last five years, the list of best E/R's from top eight countries who've taken at least 50 wickets goes:
Pollock, Vettori, McGrath, Oram, Murali, Mendis, Bond, Vaas, Harbhajan, Hopes
Now lets go to average, same criteria:
No way, look at that, Mills in fourth.
If you take the criteria out to 100 wickets, look at that, Mills has been consistently the best strike bowler in the world for the last five years.
fearsome tweak I just get pissed off when people say NZ is ████ at ODI's because they are rubbish at tests, and I'll admit they are rubbish at tests, but I'd be quite confident in saying that they would be in my top four, maybe my top three ODI teams in the world. (Yes, ahead of India!)
If Iqbal is out then Bangladesh have no shot. He's one of their few competent batsman - they pretty much only have Shakib. It's good we're trying someone like Bennett now tbh. He has got promise and he's from Canterbury so he's awesome.
My man SS got selected which is great. Hope he plays and smashes some good runs. I've got the avatar on in support.
Vettori to destroy
My man SS got selected which is great. Hope he plays and smashes some good runs. I've got the avatar on in support.
Vettori to destroy
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This is the ODI that New Zealand lost: 1st ODI: Bangladesh v New Zealand at Dhaka, Oct 9, 2008 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com
Both teams have about half of the players participating in that match in their squads.
Both teams have about half of the players participating in that match in their squads.
Ban should have won the 2nd match as well.
They dropped Oram twice, and missed a run out chance. Even then, they shoulda chased 212
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From the look of it Bangladesh won't really miss Tamim Iqbal, because he wasn't performing in that ODI series and they still managed to win a match. Of course Tamim Iqbal is now in a different form.
Personally I feel that New Zealand had a better squad in that tour then the current squad.
They shouldn't have dropped Ashraful. Somehow with him in the side they manage to win matches.
Personally I feel that New Zealand had a better squad in that tour then the current squad.
They shouldn't have dropped Ashraful. Somehow with him in the side they manage to win matches.
Ashraful's like 1 in 20, but when he plays that 1 innings they may actually win.
He'd have to be the worst specialist batsman to have played as much as he has, but he has won them a few games over the years.
He'd have to be the worst specialist batsman to have played as much as he has, but he has won them a few games over the years.
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