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Pakistan vs England Jul-Aug-Sep 2010
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angryangy
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You can seek Jabba the Butt out at his desert palace. Just beware his rancor.
sami ullah khan
Panel of Selectors
Great win by Pakistan. I wonder what English media will come up with next. My guess is ball tampering.
coming to the match I absolutely loved the commitment shown by Akhtar. He was obviously struggling but still was bowling 90 MPH thunderbolts. He has shown he wants to play for Pakistan. I hope he says his good bye with a brilliant showing at World Cup. I am amazed at how Anderson and Bresnan bowled those last two over. Having all their field on the leg, they were bowling half volleys and short ball outside off stump. Razzaq has always struggled with a sharp rising bouncer targeting his head. No one even tried that.
coming to the match I absolutely loved the commitment shown by Akhtar. He was obviously struggling but still was bowling 90 MPH thunderbolts. He has shown he wants to play for Pakistan. I hope he says his good bye with a brilliant showing at World Cup. I am amazed at how Anderson and Bresnan bowled those last two over. Having all their field on the leg, they were bowling half volleys and short ball outside off stump. Razzaq has always struggled with a sharp rising bouncer targeting his head. No one even tried that.
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freezer
School Cricketer
Yeah Bresnan was bloody woeful and they were just bowling in the perfect area for razzaq to go big. It is also great to see Shoaib back and bowling quick, Pakistan even without Amir and Asif still have a really good bowling attack.
You mainly lost due to your own incompetance at home and failing to finish it off this time. Dont blame Butt's allegations as the only reason of your defeat. If, what you said is considered to be true, ECB has adopted the same tactics as well earlier.
Yes, though i do agree it will take a lot of work to re-build PCB/ECB relationship which is not possible atleast in Butt's era.
England losing 2-3 wickets having opened with a hundred partnership is not that unusual, they lose momentum and direction once the first wicket goes down. You can't keep losing the toss and keep winning, in the last 15 ODIs with Strauss as captain he's won only THREE tosses and the only toss he's won in the last eight is against Bangladesh which England then lost - no accusations then of losing deliberately :sarcasm NINE wins in 15 ODIs off only three won tosses is pretty good, only two of those wins against Bangladesh.
This accusation stinks of deflection tactics, blaming someone else not so much to drag them down with Pakistan but to take some of the heat off Pakistan by pointing at anything that could be construed as odd and implying everyone cheats. Is it a coincidence the match a daily rag accuses Pakistan of fixing with pre-determined "scoring patterns" that Beavis' mate should come out with counter accusations of deliberately losing?
England can't continue to carry Bresnan and Yardy, Collingwood too is in shocking form. I feel a little sorry for Wright, puts in one of his best performances with the bat last ODI and is dropped! As for a point made about Yardy's economy rate, I bet the point maker doesn't realise that it is artificially low because of his first four ODIs and take those away and it is ordinary
Yardy
ODIs 01-04 : 4 wkts @ 18.50 (SR 46.50, ER 2.39)
ODIs 05-19 : 10 wkts @ 54.10 (SR 66.60, ER 4.87)
And a quick formula calculates it's ASCENT, from 2.94 after five ODIs to 3.54 after nine, to 4.06 after 16 to its current 4.33. He'll soon pass 4.50 if he continues conceding at his more recent rate of 4.87 which is quite likely, he needs to take wickets or be replaced. Wickets win you matches, doesn't matter the format. The opposition can lose the match by bowling badly, so sometimes you don't have to take wickets to win, but it is a big plus that England are a bit too complacent on. When Yardy doesn't take wickets, or Bresnan, Anderson has an off day, that's when England look poor.
Pakistan should be 3-1 up, Strauss should have walked in the 2nd ODI and Pakistan would have won for sure. I think the value of Hafeez's solidity and the absence of Trott's yesterday was the key difference, noone played the anchor role for England until it was too late. As for the supposed 'deliberate loss', England were never that convincing. A commentator pencilled England for a win with 80 runs to get but only five wickets remaining I think it was. I had much more doubt, one wicket and it was 60+ with only four wickets in hand and two would very much have favoured Pakistan.
I hope this series isn't a sign of things to come, Flower has criticised scheduling but not nearly as much as I would in his position. Playing a day-night on a Monday when they could have played Sunday. What is with the day-nights? Middle of summer you can get away with it, but this is the middle of SEPTEMBER ffs.
This accusation stinks of deflection tactics, blaming someone else not so much to drag them down with Pakistan but to take some of the heat off Pakistan by pointing at anything that could be construed as odd and implying everyone cheats. Is it a coincidence the match a daily rag accuses Pakistan of fixing with pre-determined "scoring patterns" that Beavis' mate should come out with counter accusations of deliberately losing?
England can't continue to carry Bresnan and Yardy, Collingwood too is in shocking form. I feel a little sorry for Wright, puts in one of his best performances with the bat last ODI and is dropped! As for a point made about Yardy's economy rate, I bet the point maker doesn't realise that it is artificially low because of his first four ODIs and take those away and it is ordinary
Yardy
ODIs 01-04 : 4 wkts @ 18.50 (SR 46.50, ER 2.39)
ODIs 05-19 : 10 wkts @ 54.10 (SR 66.60, ER 4.87)
And a quick formula calculates it's ASCENT, from 2.94 after five ODIs to 3.54 after nine, to 4.06 after 16 to its current 4.33. He'll soon pass 4.50 if he continues conceding at his more recent rate of 4.87 which is quite likely, he needs to take wickets or be replaced. Wickets win you matches, doesn't matter the format. The opposition can lose the match by bowling badly, so sometimes you don't have to take wickets to win, but it is a big plus that England are a bit too complacent on. When Yardy doesn't take wickets, or Bresnan, Anderson has an off day, that's when England look poor.
Pakistan should be 3-1 up, Strauss should have walked in the 2nd ODI and Pakistan would have won for sure. I think the value of Hafeez's solidity and the absence of Trott's yesterday was the key difference, noone played the anchor role for England until it was too late. As for the supposed 'deliberate loss', England were never that convincing. A commentator pencilled England for a win with 80 runs to get but only five wickets remaining I think it was. I had much more doubt, one wicket and it was 60+ with only four wickets in hand and two would very much have favoured Pakistan.
I hope this series isn't a sign of things to come, Flower has criticised scheduling but not nearly as much as I would in his position. Playing a day-night on a Monday when they could have played Sunday. What is with the day-nights? Middle of summer you can get away with it, but this is the middle of SEPTEMBER ffs.
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why do i am getting a feeling that your nightmare of T20 (Gul's 5-6) is not over yet :laugh
You prolly need to repeat b/m 5 times a day slowly and with full respect:
"T20 is gone, Gul won't repeat it.
T20 is gone, Gul won't repeat it."
This will surely help you recover
sami ullah khan
Panel of Selectors
used2bcool
Club Captain
Owzat said:
Yes, by all means, those numbers suggest he should be dumped. His batting hasn't been much in the ODIs either. But remember the English selection committee likes players like Yardy because they can "bowl-a-bit" and "bat-a-bit." They have cut down on the bit players from yesteryear, but I think the thinking hasn't been completely abolished. Remember Jaime Dalrymple?
I dunno. I'd actually forgotten all about it until it was brought up again in this thread. Certainly wasn't my motive.
Pakistan fans are just trying to divert the negative attention from their team. Pathetic. Fact is, they're match fixers and cheats.
Bollocks did they. You're confusing gutter press allegations with the ECB. Our cricket board does things by the book and can't be bought by some dodgy bloke down the pub.
*cough* *cough* Allen Stanford *cough*
Great stuff from Pakistan here. Abdul Razzaq really changed the game for Pakistan, he really was great to watch and another great thing is that Shoaib Akhtar is consistently giving Pakistan 10 over spells in ODIs without getting injured.
