Australia Tour Of India 2012/13

[ricky87]

You know, they have threatened to pull out of the RSA tour if Haroon Lorgat is elected as CSA's CEO. Cannot find the link, but shall post it soon enough. Such kind of behaviour is not going to go down well with the Indian masses as well.

India threaten Cricket SA over Haroon Lorgat - Sport LIVE

 

[Aalay]

We should change the thread title to "I hate BCCI"

 

[Slowcoach]

Come on, it's not as bad as Australian Club Cricket, where we mow the outfield to golf green standards on the 2nd Saturday of our Two Day game, the week after our opposition had been sent into bat on a 3 foot long outfield.
Or where we bat first on a bone dry pitch and pile on 300, then the week after soak the pitch so the chasing team has to bat on a greentop.
Perhaps the BCCI and the ICC should put Australian Club Cricket under the microscope while we are in the mood for pointing fingers.

 

[Satan666]

I personally cant find the BCCI/Groundsman at fault, we should blame the ICC for not having and enforcing stringent rules as it regards to pitch preparation. It is part of the Indian culture in all spheres of society to use underhand tactics in order to achieve things out of their reach. No wonder they cant perform well overseas, but of recent times within the last decade or so theyve also begun failing at home also.

Its reasons like this we can never call Sachin a true legend!

 

[SaiSrini]

I personally cant find the BCCI/Groundsman at fault, we should blame the ICC for not having and enforcing stringent rules as it regards to pitch preparation. It is part of the Indian culture in all spheres of society to use underhand tactics in order to achieve things out of their reach. No wonder they cant perform well overseas, but of recent times within the last decade or so theyve also begun failing at home also.

Its reasons like this we can never call Sachin a true legend!

Are you participating in any competition where you are rewarded brownie points for bringing Sachin into every Tom, Dick and Harry conversation?

P.s: Frankly, a troll should not be allowed to exist for this long. Is PC on a mission to test Indian members and their endurance levels?

 

[puddleduck]

Actually a very good point that Untouchable (Except the Sachin part though. Guy is in the history books as being one of the two finest players of his generation.). It is time the ICC started showing some balls, and not of the cricket variety. They let India walk all over them. As much as India have all the power, their brand will die if everyone actually stood up to them.

 

[Sedition]

Come on, it's not as bad as Australian Club Cricket, where we mow the outfield to golf green standards on the 2nd Saturday of our Two Day game, the week after our opposition had been sent into bat on a 3 foot long outfield.
Or where we bat first on a bone dry pitch and pile on 300, then the week after soak the pitch so the chasing team has to bat on a greentop.
Perhaps the BCCI and the ICC should put Australian Club Cricket under the microscope while we are in the mood for pointing fingers.

Lol what kind of bizarre system is your local under 16's or whatever using, where it takes a week to play a 2 day game? Church on Sunday or the players are just too soft to back up?

I guess your scenarios would work well if you can win every toss and choose accordingly. Sounds like you'd be better off just playing one day games if your clubs are that unsportsmanlike. Never seen those week long 2 day games across the country areas of NSW, so must be whatever area of Sydney or wherever you are where that goes on.

 

[Fenil]

I personally cant find the BCCI/Groundsman at fault, we should blame the ICC for not having and enforcing stringent rules as it regards to pitch preparation.

I don't think groundsmen are to blame for the bad tracks they prepare in tests. If you can recollect, in the last series against England, there was a good pitch at Ahmedabad and something similar was expected at Kolkata but you know how much fuss did the rift between Dhoni and the groundsman of Eden Gardens was created. If the national team captain is hell bent on having a track that resembles the surface of Mars, groundsmen cannot be blamed.

 

[SaiSrini]

I don't think groundsmen are to blame for the bad tracks they prepare in tests. If you can recollect, in the last series against England, there was a good pitch at Ahmedabad and something similar was expected at Kolkata but you know how much fuss did the rift between Dhoni and the groundsman of Eden Gardens was created. If the national team captain is hell bent on having a track that resembles the surface of Mars, groundsmen cannot be blamed.

Don't know what the fuss is all about. As long as the pitch produces a 5 day contest and a result achieved with two full sessions to go, it is a good test cricket. People are going by how the wicket looked, but the wicket played pretty well over 5 days. And I read this somewhere (on Cricinfo, etc) but Australia lost this test in a matter in 3 sessions when Dhoni turned the game around. Till then, the game was even stevens. At one stage, Australia were ahead of India in the number of sessions won by each team.

And if someone says that a curator can do things to negate one type of bowler from the opposition, I would never believe it. You know the track when you see it the morning before you walk out for the toss. You should be having the team for all conditions. As said before, home advantage is practiced by everyone around the world, not just India. When subcontinent teams visit abroad, they are dished out wickets with a generous smattering of green, pace and bounce. When teams come to the subcontinent, they are greeted with slow, low, turning wickets. The match went 5 days, produced a result with two sessions to go, provided plenty of runs for both sides, and helped the spinners. And the opposition fast bowler picked 5 wickets in the first innings.

 

[aussie1st]

No early side named for once, looks like Doherty will be getting the nod.

 

[ricky87]

No early side named for once, looks like Doherty will be getting the nod.

India v Australia, 2nd Test, Hyderabad : Clarke backs bowlers, hopes for pacier surface | Cricket News | India v Australia | ESPN Cricinfo

It might be a quicker surface to begin with but will eventually break, it is a trap to get the Aussies to play 3 fast bowlers again

 

[aussie1st]

Smokes and mirrors, I believe we will be seeing a change.

 

[Cricketman]

Apparently Matthew Wade is injured? No major media outlets have reported it yet though. No time to fly in a new keeper - Hughes might have to do the job!

 

[Aalay]

I agree Aalay, Australia have a better chance of having two seamers bowl like Pattinson. From what I've seen of Johnson this season, he would have played except that Australia are a bit spoilt for choice. Pattinson's return was welcomed and he rightly deserved a shot. It's easy to say in hindsight about Starc, but he been a popular player and has swung the white ball with supreme contempt. Australia knows what Starc offers and the hope would have been to see a spell of scything reverse, if not just one really unstoppable inswinger to the right handed openers. His other traits however leave him not quite as polished as Pattinson.

In that, I also look back to the Perth Test. Starc got six wickets, but so many batsmen just holed out to deep square leg. It was Johnson who could still get the ball to spit when the pitch was playing nicely. In finger breaking form, I think Johnson is an exciting proposition even on a slower wicket. As Henriques said in the press conference, as a seamer you can't just roll the arm over.

I think a lot of Lyon's battles are with confidence. For much of the game, the field permitted easy singles. Maybe it's logical to fear batsmen like Tendulkar, but I often think competition is about fancying long odds. "You miss I hit" is what mathematicians call a zero sum game.

That last stanza of the game said a lot for tight fields. Sehwag fiddled at a fairly harmless ball because the one before made him think. The last run could literally have been a wicket. I actually think the ball Vijay hit for six was a pretty nice flighted delivery, it's just credit to the batsman for executing his shot well. Of Sehwag, Pujara and Tendulkar, it was the latter who was the only one that acted as if it nothing mattered, which is probably great to see for Indian fans. That's the sort of serenity you want in any batsman, especially chasing 50.

I'd probably give Doherty a bit more credit than most Australians. I think some of the things he can do are what you want. But that said I'm way more hesitant about playing two spinners than, it would seem, most Australians. I find the dichotomy amazing, that suddenly these sorts of players must be picked, when nobody harbours the opinion that their bowling is really that good.

Yes. Mitchell Johnson is a must in India. Mitchell Starc has been great for Australia in limited overs format but when it comes to test, he is not that consistent. I also heard in a news channel that they are planning to rest Pattinson? Which is a horrible decision if they do. He was Australia's best bowler and you have to play him. Since Siddle has turned vegetarian, he has horribly dropped down on pace. He was bowling at the same speed as B. Kumar which mid 130's. I know that Siddle is a workhorse and can bowl long spells but he does not even swing the ball too much which always goes against him. Australia also have to consider Doherty. India's top 6 are all right hand batsman so he always will have some chance against them. So even though I would add both Doherty and Johnson in place of Starc and Siddle, I think Michael Clarke is likely to go with this bowling lineup:

Pattinson
Lyon
Siddle
Johnson/Doherty

Come on, it's not as bad as Australian Club Cricket, where we mow the outfield to golf green standards on the 2nd Saturday of our Two Day game, the week after our opposition had been sent into bat on a 3 foot long outfield.
Or where we bat first on a bone dry pitch and pile on 300, then the week after soak the pitch so the chasing team has to bat on a greentop.
Perhaps the BCCI and the ICC should put Australian Club Cricket under the microscope while we are in the mood for pointing fingers.

Slow down there mate, you might get banned for saying that.

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Apparently Matthew Wade is injured? No major media outlets have reported it yet though. No time to fly in a new keeper - Hughes might have to do the job!

Yes, here is the official news

India v Australia, 2nd Test, Hyderabad : Matthew Wade suffers fractured cheek | Cricket News | India v Australia | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[War]

Smokes and mirrors, I believe we will be seeing a change.

If AUS play Doherty in the second test, they might as well surrender the Border-Gavaskar trophy.